[Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow

Doug at Royer.com (Doug Royer) Tue, 02 August 2005 16:14 UTC

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Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:14:21 +0000
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow
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From Dave.Thewlis at calconnect.org  Thu Aug  4 09:04:09 2005
From: Dave.Thewlis at calconnect.org (Dave Thewlis)
Date: Thu Aug  4 09:04:16 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Registration open for Calconnect Roundtable and
 Interop Testing Event, 
 September 2005 - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium
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From: Dave.Thewlis at calconnect.org (Dave Thewlis)
Date: Thu Aug  4 09:30:36 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Errata on Calconnect Roundtable and Interop
 Announcement for September 2005
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From Doug at royer.com  Mon Aug  8 13:44:07 2005
From: Doug at royer.com (Doug Royer)
Date: Mon Aug  8 13:44:19 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] xCal - resubmitted.
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The xCal draft has been rewritten and submitted to the IETF.

I have an XSLT translation file that I will be releasing
soon on SourceForge that can translate an xCal object
back to an iCal object. I am waiting for SourceForge
to approve the project name.

Discussion takes place on xCal@INET-Consulting.com

Copies of the draft at:

	http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.txt
	http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.html
	http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.xml


JOIN the xCal mailing list at:

	http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal

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From lisa at osafoundation.org  Mon Aug  8 18:40:32 2005
From: lisa at osafoundation.org (Lisa Dusseault)
Date: Mon Aug  8 18:40:35 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Timezone registration
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:14:09 -0700, Doug Royer <Doug@Royer.com> wrote:

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> Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what it means to say that IANA "wants to do" a registry.
>> It's my understanding that IANA implements registries (provided they're
>> technically able to) based on IETF recommendations resulting from IETF
>> review of proposals.  So it would seem more important whether the IETF
>> wants IANA to do a registry (and how) and the CALSIFY WG discussion
>> raised  a few important questions about that.
>
> I understand it to mean like Chris Newman described in the meeting.
> Register the names, leave the details to the vendors or services.

It may not be so easy for IANA to register timezones.  As was pointed out  
to us in the CALSIFY meeting, timezones are defined by political processes  
and that's not an easy thing for IETF or IANA to get a handle on.  Should  
the IANA accept a new timezone registration by the King of San Francisco  
on behalf of all of the San Francisco area?  How would IANA verify a  
timezone registration from Malheur county, Oregon?  If the government of  
Canada does not bother registering its timezones directly with IANA, then  
who is qualified to do so on its behalf?

I know little about how to solve these problems, but I notice that the  
LTRU draft  
(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltru-registry-10.txt)  
mentions special ISO advisory committees.

Lisa
From TimHare at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 19:30:56 2005
From: TimHare at comcast.net (Tim Hare)
Date: Mon Aug  8 19:30:57 2005
Subject: [Ietf-calsify] Timezone registration
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>" Should  the IANA accept a new timezone registration by the King of San 
>Francisco
>on behalf of all of the San Francisco area?"
>
>Lisa
>_______________________________________________

No, of course not. Every San Franciscan knows you should only accept edicts 
from descendants of Emperor Norton: http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/norton.html

All kidding aside, though - don't most countries have the equivalent of our 
National Institute of Standards and Technology? An RFC which described 
timezones and their registration, it seems to me, could also designate what 
the official source is for such information, or could at least state that 
each national government should designate an official source. I realize 
that the zones are often set by smaller governmental entities such as 
states, but there's almost always some national body which keeps track of them.




Tim Hare
Interested Bystander, Non-Inc.