[Ietf-carddav] RE: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV
Cameron Stillion <camerost@exchange.microsoft.com> Wed, 19 October 2005 17:05 UTC
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Cc: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>, Mark Paterson <mark.paterson@oracle.com>, CalDAV DevList <ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org>, CardDAV DevList <ietf-carddav@osafoundation.org>
Subject: [Ietf-carddav] RE: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV
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I actually think there is value in having them separate - just as iCal should never have contained tasks... They are fundamentally different data types. BUT, they need to have a connection. The protocol and schema should connect - clearly and purposefully. cam -----Original Message----- From: Carsten Guenther [mailto:Carsten.Guenther@scalix.com] Sent: Wednesday.19.October.2005 09.41 To: Cameron Stillion Cc: Mark Paterson; Cyrus Daboo; CalDAV DevList; CardDAV DevList Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV I agree, and it begs the question if those two (CalDAV and CardDAV) should be rolled into one standard. On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Cameron Stillion wrote: > > I would like to just add that strategically, vCard and iCal are > intimately related. Endeavors in this area are necessarily going to > reference each other. As soon as you begin implementing any PIM > features of relative value, it becomes very clear. Distributing > Calendars needs a way to associate an owner with a calendar, > especially the kind that represent your actual schedule, as opposed to > the calendar for the little league team you coach on the weekends. > Likewise, as soon as you begin distributing your contact information, > the next piece you want to share is your schedule. Both standards > need to have a way to associate back and forth. A standard or > protocol that mentions one but not the other, is IMHO - incomplete, > and unfinished. > > Cameron > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org > [mailto:ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org] On Behalf Of Mark > Paterson > Sent: Wednesday.19.October.2005 08.59 > To: Cyrus Daboo > Cc: CalDAV DevList; CardDAV DevList > Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardDAV > > Nice idea but you may want to consider a cardsify initiative to go > along with it. vCard leaves a lot to be desired.:-) > > Cyrus Daboo wrote: > > >> Hi folks, >> This is a little of topic, but I think it is relevant for most folks. >> I have just sent in a draft for a new protocol called CardDAV: >> >> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-daboo-carddav-00.txt> >> >> CardDAV does for vCards what CalDAV does for iCalendar. i.e. it >> provides a set of WebDAV extensions and a data model for access to >> vCard objects stored on a server. CardDAV is very similar to CalDAV >> because of the similarities between iCalendar and vCard formats. >> >> There is a separate discussion list setup for CardDAV, so please >> respond to any comments on that list rather than the CalDAV list. >> List >> > > >> details are below: >> >> <http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-carddav> >> >> > > -- > MARK PATERSON > Director, Software Development > Collaborative Application Services > Oracle Corporation - Server Technologies > > Phone: 514.905.8649 > Mobile: 514.862.8505 > mailto: mark.paterson@oracle.com > http: www.oracle.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-caldav mailing list -- Ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org See > http://ietf.webdav.org/caldav/ for more CalDAV resources > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-caldav > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-caldav mailing list -- Ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org See > http://ietf.webdav.org/caldav/ for more CalDAV resources > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-caldav >
- [Ietf-carddav] Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Cyrus Daboo
- [Ietf-carddav] Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Mark Paterson
- [Ietf-carddav] Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Bernard Desruisseaux
- [Ietf-carddav] RE: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Cameron Stillion
- [Ietf-carddav] Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Carsten Guenther
- [Ietf-carddav] RE: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Cameron Stillion
- [Ietf-carddav] Re: [Ietf-caldav] Off topic: CardD… Mark Paterson
- [Ietf-carddav] Off topic: CardDAV Cyrus Daboo