Re: [CCAMP] G.709 signaling - encoding Type

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Wed, 13 March 2013 22:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] G.709 signaling - encoding Type
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John,

See below.

On 3/13/2013 6:40 PM, John E Drake wrote:
> Lou,
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>  
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> I must have been asleep but I don’t remember hearing of an issue.

No problem, looked like a few others had some trouble getting moving
this AM too.

>  It
> was my understanding that AMP and GMP both use G.709 encoding in the
> data plane, so why would we want to make what appears to be an
> artificial distinction?  

This was covered on slide 3 of Danielle's presentation.  He/They can
provide additional details/justification.

Lou

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> Irrespectively Yours,
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> 
> John
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>  
> 
> *From:*Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:27 PM
> *To:* John E Drake; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); Rajan Rao
> *Cc:* CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); Daniele Ceccarelli
> *Subject:* Re: [CCAMP] G.709 signaling - encoding Type
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>  
> 
> John,
> 
> Do you have an alternate proposal on how to address the issue, or do you
> just see an issue?
> 
> (If the former, the onus will fall on you to provide one. If the latter,
> it'll fall to Sergio And Danielle to recap the presented issue.)
> 
> Lou
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>  
> 
> On March 13, 2013 6:16:46 PM John E Drake wrote:
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>     Hi,
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>      
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>     I don’t think this is a good idea and I don’t see any reason for it.
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>      
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>     Irrespectively Yours,
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>      
> 
>     John
> 
>      
> 
>     *From:*ccamp-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org>
>     [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:53 AM
>     *To:* Rajan Rao
>     *Cc:* CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>)
>     *Subject:* [CCAMP] R: G.709 signaling - encoding Type
> 
>      
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>     Rao,
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>      
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>     it is a proposal: so you should read:  “encoding type can indicate…
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>      
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>     Regards
> 
>     Sergio
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>      
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>     *Belotti Sergio-  System Architect*
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>     *ALCATE-LUCENT  Optics Division*
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>     via Trento 30 Vimercate (MB) - Italy
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>     phone +39 (039) 6863033
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>     *Da:*ccamp-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org>
>     [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] *Per conto di *Rajan Rao
>     *Inviato:* mercoledì 13 marzo 2013 14.40
>     *A:* CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>)
>     *Oggetto:* [CCAMP] G.709 signaling - encoding Type
> 
>      
> 
>     Daniele,
> 
>      
> 
>     The presentation slide#3 says:  “encoding type indicates AMP or
>     GMP”.   I don’t think this is the case.  We use  G.709 ODUk as
>     encoding type.  There is no explicit indication of AMP or GMP
>     there.  Are you proposing to change this?
> 
>      
> 
>     Note that AMP/GMP can be inferred from Signal Type in traffic param
>     & Length field ( = 8) in the label.
> 
>      
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>     Thanks
>     Rajan
>