Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Wed, 14 September 2022 11:33 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>, Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15
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From: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
Sent: 12 September 2022 10:34

Hi Tom,

The YANG tree is generated automatically by pyang so I am not sure we can easily insert comments there

<tp>
Good to know that they are generated automatically - some authors do it by hand and do not always get it right:-(

You provide comment lines in he YANG and that is good - what we need is for the generation of the tree diagrams to carry those comments across.  I note that Dhruv made a comment along the same lines on ccamp-flexigrid-yang

Tom Petch

Please note that every time we change the YANG model we regenerate the YANG tree with pyang so I believe that adding the comments manually would be quite cumbersome

Italo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> Sent: giovedì 8 settembre 2022 17:30
> To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli
> <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; ccamp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15
>
> From: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
> Sent: 08 September 2022 13:19
> To: tom petch; Daniele Ceccarelli; ccamp@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> The text in the former comments line have been moved within YANG
> description statements which I believe are more correct from a YANG language
> perspective <tp>
>
> Errr no!
>
> You have 46 pages (no page numbers remember:-( in which you have
> comments like
>       /*
>       * Augment TE bandwidth
>       */
> which are helpful in helping me find where I am,  What I am saying is that the
> tree diagram would be more helpful if it had //  Augment TE bandwidth at the
> equivalent point in the tree diagram.  And if there were as much again
> comments in both, then that would be even better.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> Italo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> > Sent: giovedì 8 settembre 2022 13:26
> > To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; Italo Busi
> > <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; ccamp@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15
> >
> > What you could do  ...
> >
> > From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tom petch
> > <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> > Sent: 07 September 2022 10:00
> > From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
> > Sent: 06 September 2022 13:33
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Thanks for the review.
> >
> > Few comments from my side:
> >
> > - There isn't that much that we can do about the structure imposed by
> > the TE- topology other than follow the path already established.
> >
> > <tp2>
> > ... is to add comment lines to the tree diagram.  Because the YANG is
> > almost all uses, I find it hard to see what is happening and so need
> > the tree diagram more.  I then need to match the YANG module and the
> > tree diagram - the former has comment lines (good)  the latter does
> > not so adding the same comment lines to the tree diagram would make it
> > easier to switch between the two and see what is going on.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > - English: unfortunately many of us are non English native speakers,
> > but luckily the RFC editor is extremely helpful here. His/her thorough
> > review usually leads to well written documents.
> > - References: G.709 is already part of the references.
> >
> > <tp>
> >
> > Disagree
> > In the references I see G.709 March 2020 In the document I see
> > G.709/Y.1331 February 2016.
> > I cannot see these as the same.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > Thanks
> > Daniele
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, 5 September 2022 13:02
> > > From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Italo Busi
> > > <Italo.Busi=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> > > Sent: 05 September 2022 07:35
> > >
> > > Hi Daniele, Fatai,
> > >
> > > As co-author, I think the draft is now ready for publication
> > >
> > > <tp>
> > > Mmm that's a challenge.
> > >
> > > Indeed it is a challenge to review for the usual reasons, the
> > > structure imposed by te-topology, the imports, the uses, the many
> > > changes in its history  and so on.  I tried to match it up with
> > > RFC8795 s.6 and failed; I may try again in the next week or two.
> > >
> > > The English I find flaky, as in mismatch of singular and plural and
> > > in some unusual spellings  'Costant Bit Rate' or with 'The
> > > client-facing is an indicator' or 'support- client-signal' for 'supported..'
> > >
> > > More concretely
> > > G.709/Y.1331
> > > should be in the I-D references IMO.
> > >
> > > Tom Petch
> > >
> > > Thanks, Italo
> > >
> > > From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
> > > Sent: lunedì 22 agosto 2022 21:00
> > > To: ccamp@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-15
> > >
> > > CCAMP,
> > >
> > > the IPR declaration collection has been successfully completed and
> > > we can move to the next step together with draft-ietf-ccamp-layer1-types.
> > >
> > > This starts a 2 weeks working group last call on
> > > draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang-
> > > 15 The last call ends on Monday September 5th. Please send you
> > > comments to the CCAMP mailing list.
> > >
> > > All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been
> > > collected and can be found in the history of the document:
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-topo-yang/hist
> > > or y/ Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.
> > >
> > > If interested, please volunteer to be the shepherd of the draft
> > > (authors excluded).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Daniele & Fatai
> >
> >
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