Re: [CCAMP] POLLING on draft-ietf-ccamp-optical-impairment-topology-yang-05

"Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com> Tue, 24 November 2020 16:15 UTC

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From: "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>
To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] POLLING on draft-ietf-ccamp-optical-impairment-topology-yang-05
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Hi Daniele,

-My preference is Option 1  and we (as Nokia) have an implementation close to
Option 1 (organizational-mode).
-As second priority I can also survive with Option 2 : adding or clarifying text how the model can be applied to some real use cases can be helpful.

Thanks
Sergio

From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 4:09 PM
To: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] POLLING on draft-ietf-ccamp-optical-impairment-topology-yang-05

Hi WG,

This is a polling to follow up on the discussion we had during the IETF session.
The polling will be closed on Friday 27th November.

Please indicate which option (more than one allowed) do you support. You can motivate why an option and why not another or share if you are aware of existing implementations.


  *   Option 1: The draft is good as is today.
  *   Option 2: We need to add text specifying the use cases that we want to cover. More precisely identify the cases that are outside the scope of the solution proposed.
  *   Option 3: Contribute to ITU-T to have all the cases covered by application codes.
  *   Option 4: Remove explicit parameters in the organizational-mode because they are considered implicit parameters in the mode. This allows to cover cases where the same mode is used for transceivers that extend (but not limit) the operation range of a mode.

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai.