Re: Optical Link Interface
Loa Andersson <loa.andersson@utfors.se> Thu, 26 July 2001 20:59 UTC
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All, second (or maybe third) in motion. I think Andre's proposal has a very solid foundation. As I understand it even the people proposing NTIP, do so based on the argument that two protocols are better than one. Somestimes even quoting "(I)SP's" wanting this. Speaking as an operator I can't find any reason to complicate our network with two protocols (even though marginally different) that give me the same thing. For the very same reason that we won't deploy CR-LDP, we won't deploy a second optical link interface protocol. The only chance that we will deploy NTIP is that it will be the one and only pick by CCAMP, and I can't see that happen. Let's go for LMP-WDM and let's stop the standardization process for alternatives. /Loa Martin Dubuc wrote: > > I support your proposal. > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andre Fredette [mailto:fredette@photonex.com] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:01 PM > To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org > Subject: Optical Link Interface > > Last month, the "Optical Link Interface (OLI) Requirements" document > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-many-oli-reqts-00.txt > was discussed on the ccamp mailing list and achieved "rough consensus" > according to our working group co-chairs. Given this, we'd like to make > some progress on the protocol specification. I'd like to generate some > discussion on this mailing list before the IETF meeting in London > because > meaningful technical discussion cannot occur in the time allocated > during > the meeting. > > There have been two proposals in the IETF to satisfy the OLI > requirements: > > 1. [LMP-WDM]: > "Link Management Protocol (LMP) for DWDM Optical Line Systems" > http://www.photonex.com/other/draft-fredette-lmp-wdm-02.txt > (note, this updated document was submitted Friday, so it should show up > on the official website soon). > > and > > 2. [NTIP]: > "Network Transport Interface Protocol (NTIP) for Photonic Cross > Connects" > (PXC) > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sahay-ccamp-ntip-00.txt > > LMP-WDM proposes extensions to LMP to satisfy the OLI requirements, > while > NTIP proposes a new protocol. We believe that the LMP approach is best > because: > > 1. [LMP-WDM] satisfies the OLI Requirements. > > 2. The extensions to LMP are quite natural and fit within the spirit of > the > LMP protocol. > > 3. LMP is a reasonably mature IETF protocol specification: > - It has been in the works for well over a year. > - It is an official working group document. > > 4. It is better to have one protocol, than two for a given function > (remember CR-LDP vs. RSVP-TE, and OSPF vs. IS-IS) > > 5. Using the same protocol simplifies both implementation and management > on > devices, such as optical cross-connects and routers, that may need to > use > both simultaneously. > > While there is no doubt in my mind that NTIP could be made to satisfy > the > OLI requirements, It is my strong opinion that LMP should be the > solution > chosen by the CCAMP working group due to the reasons outlined above. > > Comments please! > > Regards, > Andre -- Loa Andersson Chief Architect, Utfors Research, Architecture and Future Lab (URAX) Utfors AB Råsundavägen 12 Box 525, 169 29 Solna Office +46 8 5270 2000 Office direct +46 8 5270 5038 Mobile +46 70 848 5038 Email loa.andersson@utfors.se WWW www.utfors.se
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