Re: [CCAMP] Follow up to routing area reorg

"Zafar Ali (zali)" <> Fri, 29 August 2014 16:31 UTC

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From: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <>
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Hi Lou: 

Many thanks for your detailed comments and offline review. Much
appreciated. Based on the feedback. I have modified both documents as

Dear Chairs and the WG:

These are very slim documents to get code points for ODU1e, ODU3e1, and
ODU3e2. We believe we have addressed all comments received from the WG.

There was also a pool on this work at IETF89. Copy and pasting the from
minutes (

> 29           13:15     5     Title:     RSVP-TE extension for additional
>signal types in G.709 OTN
>Presenter:     Zafar Ali,
[poll] Is there interest in this work? [a reasonable number]

Given this, we believe there is support from the WG in this work to start
adoption poll. 

Any comments and a follow-up adoption poll will be greatly appreciated.


Regards ... Zafar

-----Original Message-----
From: "" <>
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:26 PM
To: zali <>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Follow up to routing area  reorg

>Hi Zafar,
>    Considering you weren't at the meeting you got close to the
>discussed actions.  From the raw minutes:
>> Lou: I suspect you mean "Standards Action" rather than "Unassigned"
>> Lou: Any comments from our AD - expect there are two areas where he
>> may comment
>> Adrian: The Experimental range looks large, also perhaps "Expert
>> Reivew" is better than "Experimental"
>> Adrian:  the G.Supp43 values should be under Expert Review rather
>> than  Experimental, as they're going to be around for too long to be
>> really  experimental
>> Lou:  Agreed, not sure why we (AD&Chair) focused on Experimental at
>> the last meeting, but Expert Reviews is clearly a better choice.
>> Authors, please make the change to allow for Expert review, consider
>> shrinking the experimental range and remove the private range. The
>> document should indicate that the expert (for the expert review) will
>> be appointed by the CCAMP WG chairs.
>> Lou: The prior document should also request "Expert Review" values.
>So looking at the documents I think you have some actions to do before
>we can poll for adoption.  Also, strictly speaking you no longer need to
>change the registry values, but rather just the registry assignment
>policy.  This is all I'd personally recommend to do, but if you want to
>both change the registry policy and add an experimental range, this is
>your prerogative.  To fix *just* the assignment problem (and keep things
>simple), I think you can do the following to
>    2. IANA Considerations
>    IANA maintains the an "OTN Signal Type" subregistry to the
>"Generalized  Multi-Protocol
>    Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Parameters" registry. The registry
>currently is defined
>    to use the Standards Action registration policy as defined by
>[RFC5226]. This document
>    directs that both Standards Action and Specification Required
>policies, as defined in
>    [RFC5226], be applied  to this subregistry.  When needed, the
>Designated Expert shall be
>    identified by a CCAMP WG chair or, in the case the group is no
>longer active, by the IESG.
>    Update the intro and abstract text to be aligned with this text.
>For  draft-ali-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3
>- I think trying to maintain alignment with the text of
>  provides no value, adds unnecessary dependent details, and should be
>dropped from the
>  document.  (Or do the extra work of updating it to match the changes
>and then rev this
>  document every time the other changes.)
>- You no longer need to describe the range or suggest specific values.
>Unless I missed something, I believe that's it.
>On 7/26/2014 10:59 AM, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote:
>> Hi Lou, Deborah, Adrian and the WG:
>> The following two documents listed in the email has been updated based
>> the comments received from Chairs, ADs and the WG. Pointer to the latest
>> version of the drafts are provided.
>>      17 - draft-ali-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry   ===>
>> stry-01.txt
>>     18 - draft-ali-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3  ===>
>> xt 
>> These are very slim documents to get code points for ODU1e, ODU3e1, and
>> ODU3e2. We believe there is support from the WG in this work to start
>> adoption poll. 
>> Any comments and a follow-up adoption poll will be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Regards Š Zafar
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "" <>
>> Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:17 AM
>> To: "" <>
>> Subject: [CCAMP] Follow up to routing area  reorg
>>> All,
>>>    As described in yesterday's routing area meeting, see
>>>, our
>>> ADs have initiated some changes that will impact CCAMP.  As presented,
>>> technology specific work will remain in ccamp. The other details of
>>> these changes will be flushed out as part of the forthcoming charter
>>> drafting / revising.
>>> As our AD's have stated, it is important that these changes do not stop
>>> us from making progress.  In this week's meetings we discussed actions
>>> related to  a number of individual drafts that we don't expect to be
>>> impacted by the changes.  In particular, we discussed planned updates,
>>> and subsequent adoption polls, of the following drafts:
>>>>     11 - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-info
>>>>     12 - draft-dharinigert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp
>>>>     13 - draft-galikunze-ccamp-g-698-2-snmp-mib
>>>>     17 - draft-ali-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry
>>>>     18 - draft-ali-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3
>>> Please do your updates as discussed and we should be able to poll these
>>> documents, as planned.  (Hopefully in time to allow for the discussed
>>> liaison to ITU-T.)
>>> Importantly, work on WG drafts should also continue as
>>> We hope that this addresses the questions we received offline. If you
>>> still have questions, please feel free to send them to the list -- or
>>> privately if you prefer.
>>> Deborah and Lou
>>> _______________________________________________
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