Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6

Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> Tue, 07 September 2021 07:09 UTC

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Dear Stanislav,

Thanks for your clarification!
I understand this proposal is for informational RFC.
Thanks for your correction of my mis-expression.

Best regards,
Taechan

2021년 9월 7일 (화) 오후 3:42, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>님이 작성:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:42:31 +0300
> From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>
> To: Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr>
> Cc: cfrg@irtf.org
> Subject: Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4
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> Dear Taechan,
>
> Thank you for your email!
>
> At the same time, as Colin Perkins emphasized yesterday in his message, the
> draft is targeting publication as an Informational RFC (as long as other
> CFRG documents), not a Standards Track document, so ?standardized? doesn?t
> seem to be a suitable word.
>
> Best regards,
> Stanislav
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 at 08:59, Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> wrote:
>
> > I also strongly support the acceptance of this proposal.
> > As no one might doubt here, pairing-friendly cryptography has lots of
> > interesting applications.
> > Moreover, a follow-up result by De Micheli, Gaudry, and Pierrot (
> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/707.pdf) shows the implementational
> > feasibility of my algorithm with Barbulescu.
> > For crypto-agility, I think there is no reason to delay the
> > standardization of this proposal.
> > I would be happy to see this proposal be standardized.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Taechan
> >
> > 2021? 9? 7? (?) ?? 4:00, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>?? ??:
> >
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> >>    1. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >>       (Colin Perkins)
> >>    2. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >>       (Yumi Sakemi)
> >>    3. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >>       (Yumi Sakemi)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:20:39 +0100
> >> From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
> >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> >> Cc: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>om>, CFRG
> >>         <cfrg@irtf.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >> Message-ID: <6B079E60-5A57-444B-A620-E85A163CFEF8@csperkins.org>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF
> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
> >>
> >> The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
> >> Informational RFC.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the
> pairing-friendly
> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
> >> standard is ready to progress.
> >> >
> >> > Mike Scott
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
> >> smyshsv@gmail.com <mailto:smyshsv@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> > Dear CFRG participants,
> >> >
> >> > This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on
> September,
> >> 8th.
> >> >
> >> > See
> >>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
> >> <
> >>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/>
> >> for the latest version of the draft.
> >> >
> >> > We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/
> <
> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/
> >)
> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
> >> >
> >> > Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to publish
> >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this
> message
> >> or directly to CFRG chairs.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CFRG mailing list
> >> > CFRG@irtf.org <mailto:CFRG@irtf.org>
> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg <
> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg>
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> >> > CFRG mailing list
> >> > CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Colin Perkins
> >> https://csperkins.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:26:31 +0900
> >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>
> >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>rg>, SAITO Tsunekazu
> >>         <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>jp>,  Tetsutaro Kobayashi
> >>         <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp>
> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >> Message-ID:
> >>         <
> >> CAA4D8KZdRoHHy-ZHwMHe4+ZHgtPtcqhM9uWe_TjK64OKnTov2A@mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Dear Prof. Scott
> >>
> >> I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our
> >> activities of pairing-friendly curves.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Yumi
> >>
> >> 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>rg>:
> >> >
> >> > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF
> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
> >> >
> >> > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
> >> Informational RFC.
> >> >
> >> > Colin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the
> pairing-friendly
> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
> >> standard is ready to progress.
> >> >
> >> > Mike Scott
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
> >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear CFRG participants,
> >> >>
> >> >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on
> September,
> >> 8th.
> >> >>
> >> >> See
> >>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
> >> for the latest version of the draft.
> >> >>
> >> >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/
> )
> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to
> publish
> >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this
> message
> >> or directly to CFRG chairs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> CFRG mailing list
> >> >> CFRG@irtf.org
> >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CFRG mailing list
> >> > CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Colin Perkins
> >> > https://csperkins.org/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CFRG mailing list
> >> > CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
> >>  Infours Inc.
> >>
> >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:49:49 +0900
> >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>
> >> To: csp@csperkins.org
> >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>rg>, SAITO Tsunekazu
> >>         <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>jp>,  Tetsutaro Kobayashi
> >>         <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp>
> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
> >> Message-ID:
> >>         <CAA4D8Kbvg+Zj5WAP2xOCV0rT8cYFD1FzFEA_h=
> >> P2rwRmGeFRRQ@mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Dear Prof. Colin Perkins
> >>
> >> Thank you for clarifying our situation/status of activities with
> >> accurate information.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Yumi
> >>
> >> 2021?9?6?(?) 23:26 Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>jp>:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Prof. Scott
> >> >
> >> > I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our
> >> > activities of pairing-friendly curves.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Yumi
> >> >
> >> > 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>rg>:
> >> > >
> >> > > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an
> IRTF
> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
> >> > >
> >> > > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
> >> Informational RFC.
> >> > >
> >> > > Colin
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the
> pairing-friendly
> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
> >> standard is ready to progress.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike Scott
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
> >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Dear CFRG participants,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on
> September,
> >> 8th.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> See
> >>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
> >> for the latest version of the draft.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/
> )
> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to
> >> publish as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to
> this
> >> message or directly to CFRG chairs.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > >> CFRG mailing list
> >> > >> CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > CFRG mailing list
> >> > > CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Colin Perkins
> >> > > https://csperkins.org/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > CFRG mailing list
> >> > > CFRG@irtf.org
> >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
> >> >  Infours Inc.
> >> >
> >> > E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
> >>  Infours Inc.
> >>
> >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
> >>
> >>
> >>
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