Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6
Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> Tue, 07 September 2021 07:09 UTC
Return-Path: <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr>
X-Original-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660EF3A0FD9 for <cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Sep 2021 00:09:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.897
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iBSd9RW2Q2a for <cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 7 Sep 2021 00:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ospam1.snu.ac.kr (ospam1.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 803DE3A0F48 for <cfrg@irtf.org>; Tue, 7 Sep 2021 00:08:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from unknown (HELO ispam1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.202) by 147.46.10.211 with ESMTP; 7 Sep 2021 16:08:52 +0900
X-Original-SENDERIP: 147.46.10.202
X-Original-SENDERCOUNTRY: KR, Korea, Republic of
X-Original-MAILFROM: yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr
X-Original-RCPTTO: cfrg@irtf.org
Received: from unknown (HELO mail-pf1-f174.google.com) (yoshiki1@209.85.210.174) by 147.46.10.202 with ESMTP; 7 Sep 2021 16:08:51 +0900
X-Original-SENDERIP: 209.85.210.174
X-Original-SENDERCOUNTRY: US, United States
X-Original-MAILFROM: yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr
X-Original-RCPTTO: cfrg@irtf.org
Received: by mail-pf1-f174.google.com with SMTP id x7so6508215pfa.8 for <cfrg@irtf.org>; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5326k5IVFDP8vBL+WnEWtVzcuxD9j9waEwrDgSqizm1XGU7l6gGQ i9MxpeImg4NA2vXQqF3U1lVNWV9d6oyTHGPOenE=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyOZO/fPQLF5BDEnvpQtcyFO6Lx+fhvC3Qv/6AR7mdVUgjajsFz8teUDFzsmjokQHfOYkulMcnCY+R0qOehujE=
X-Received: by 2002:a65:400c:: with SMTP id f12mr15494458pgp.296.1630998530299; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:08:50 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <mailman.2550.1630996973.29995.cfrg@irtf.org>
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2550.1630996973.29995.cfrg@irtf.org>
From: Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 16:08:24 +0900
X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: <CACT_LOET02rypR=N3ZKfRQEJs4srwu02mPXJp28k00cwPi=AWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACT_LOET02rypR=N3ZKfRQEJs4srwu02mPXJp28k00cwPi=AWA@mail.gmail.com>
To: cfrg@irtf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000007205d05cb627053"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/VzdHaTlmDbPWZGoSAHOv92NJ8gE>
Subject: Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6
X-BeenThere: cfrg@irtf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Crypto Forum Research Group <cfrg.irtf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.irtf.org/mailman/options/cfrg>, <mailto:cfrg-request@irtf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/cfrg/>
List-Post: <mailto:cfrg@irtf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:cfrg-request@irtf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg>, <mailto:cfrg-request@irtf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 07:09:05 -0000
Dear Stanislav, Thanks for your clarification! I understand this proposal is for informational RFC. Thanks for your correction of my mis-expression. Best regards, Taechan 2021년 9월 7일 (화) 오후 3:42, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>님이 작성: > Send CFRG mailing list submissions to > cfrg@irtf.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cfrg-request@irtf.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cfrg-owner@irtf.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CFRG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4 (Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:42:31 +0300 > From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com> > To: Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> > Cc: cfrg@irtf.org > Subject: Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4 > Message-ID: > <CAMr0u6k70p8Qnx= > ge7MzRSR4SKdyC0_zy3wykG_Of2LLb-jqXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear Taechan, > > Thank you for your email! > > At the same time, as Colin Perkins emphasized yesterday in his message, the > draft is targeting publication as an Informational RFC (as long as other > CFRG documents), not a Standards Track document, so ?standardized? doesn?t > seem to be a suitable word. > > Best regards, > Stanislav > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 at 08:59, Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> wrote: > > > I also strongly support the acceptance of this proposal. > > As no one might doubt here, pairing-friendly cryptography has lots of > > interesting applications. > > Moreover, a follow-up result by De Micheli, Gaudry, and Pierrot ( > > https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/707.pdf) shows the implementational > > feasibility of my algorithm with Barbulescu. > > For crypto-agility, I think there is no reason to delay the > > standardization of this proposal. > > I would be happy to see this proposal be standardized. > > > > Best regards, > > Taechan > > > > 2021? 9? 7? (?) ?? 4:00, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>?? ??: > > > >> Send CFRG mailing list submissions to > >> cfrg@irtf.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> cfrg-request@irtf.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> cfrg-owner@irtf.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of CFRG digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> (Colin Perkins) > >> 2. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> (Yumi Sakemi) > >> 3. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> (Yumi Sakemi) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:20:39 +0100 > >> From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> > >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > >> Cc: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>, CFRG > >> <cfrg@irtf.org> > >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on > >> draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> Message-ID: <6B079E60-5A57-444B-A620-E85A163CFEF8@csperkins.org> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF > >> research group, and does not develop standards. > >> > >> The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an > >> Informational RFC. > >> > >> Colin > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott= > >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The > >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the > pairing-friendly > >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some > >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft > >> standard is ready to progress. > >> > > >> > Mike Scott > >> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev < > >> smyshsv@gmail.com <mailto:smyshsv@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > Dear CFRG participants, > >> > > >> > This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves" > >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on > September, > >> 8th. > >> > > >> > See > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/ > >> < > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/> > >> for the latest version of the draft. > >> > > >> > We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see > >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/ > < > >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/ > >) > >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC. > >> > > >> > Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to publish > >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this > message > >> or directly to CFRG chairs. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Stanislav, Nick and Alexey > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > CFRG mailing list > >> > CFRG@irtf.org <mailto:CFRG@irtf.org> > >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg < > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > CFRG mailing list > >> > CFRG@irtf.org > >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Colin Perkins > >> https://csperkins.org/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: < > >> > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/cfrg/attachments/20210906/643453d2/attachment.htm > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:26:31 +0900 > >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp> > >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>, SAITO Tsunekazu > >> <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>, Tetsutaro Kobayashi > >> <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp> > >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on > >> draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> Message-ID: > >> < > >> CAA4D8KZdRoHHy-ZHwMHe4+ZHgtPtcqhM9uWe_TjK64OKnTov2A@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> > >> Dear Prof. Scott > >> > >> I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our > >> activities of pairing-friendly curves. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Yumi > >> > >> 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>: > >> > > >> > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF > >> research group, and does not develop standards. > >> > > >> > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an > >> Informational RFC. > >> > > >> > Colin > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott= > >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The > >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the > pairing-friendly > >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some > >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft > >> standard is ready to progress. > >> > > >> > Mike Scott > >> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev < > >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Dear CFRG participants, > >> >> > >> >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves" > >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on > September, > >> 8th. > >> >> > >> >> See > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/ > >> for the latest version of the draft. > >> >> > >> >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see > >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/ > ) > >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC. > >> >> > >> >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to > publish > >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this > message > >> or directly to CFRG chairs. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> CFRG mailing list > >> >> CFRG@irtf.org > >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > CFRG mailing list > >> > CFRG@irtf.org > >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Colin Perkins > >> > https://csperkins.org/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > CFRG mailing list > >> > CFRG@irtf.org > >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D. > >> Infours Inc. > >> > >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:49:49 +0900 > >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp> > >> To: csp@csperkins.org > >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>, SAITO Tsunekazu > >> <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>, Tetsutaro Kobayashi > >> <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp> > >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on > >> draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves > >> Message-ID: > >> <CAA4D8Kbvg+Zj5WAP2xOCV0rT8cYFD1FzFEA_h= > >> P2rwRmGeFRRQ@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> > >> Dear Prof. Colin Perkins > >> > >> Thank you for clarifying our situation/status of activities with > >> accurate information. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Yumi > >> > >> 2021?9?6?(?) 23:26 Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>: > >> > > >> > Dear Prof. Scott > >> > > >> > I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our > >> > activities of pairing-friendly curves. > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > Yumi > >> > > >> > 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>: > >> > > > >> > > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an > IRTF > >> research group, and does not develop standards. > >> > > > >> > > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an > >> Informational RFC. > >> > > > >> > > Colin > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott= > >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The > >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the > pairing-friendly > >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some > >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft > >> standard is ready to progress. > >> > > > >> > > Mike Scott > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev < > >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear CFRG participants, > >> > >> > >> > >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves" > >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on > September, > >> 8th. > >> > >> > >> > >> See > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/ > >> for the latest version of the draft. > >> > >> > >> > >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see > >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/ > ) > >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC. > >> > >> > >> > >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to > >> publish as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to > this > >> message or directly to CFRG chairs. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> CFRG mailing list > >> > >> CFRG@irtf.org > >> > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > CFRG mailing list > >> > > CFRG@irtf.org > >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Colin Perkins > >> > > https://csperkins.org/ > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > CFRG mailing list > >> > > CFRG@irtf.org > >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D. > >> > Infours Inc. > >> > > >> > E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D. > >> Infours Inc. > >> > >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Digest Footer > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> CFRG mailing list > >> CFRG@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4 > >> ************************************ > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > CFRG mailing list > > CFRG@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/cfrg/attachments/20210907/a03fb8f4/attachment.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CFRG mailing list > CFRG@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6 > ************************************ >
- Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6 Taechan Kim
- Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6 Yumi Sakemi