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Re: [codec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-10.txt> (Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec) to Proposed Standard

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Tue, 02 February 2016 22:54 UTC

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From: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>
To: "Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterribe@xiph.org>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, Ron <ron@debian.org>
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Subject: Re: [codec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-10.txt> (Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec) to Proposed Standard
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Yes, unfortunately.
Stephan




On 2/2/16, 14:51, "Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterribe@xiph.org> wrote:

>Stephan Wenger wrote:
>> Take the text, minus RFC boilerplate and formatting, and publish it wherever and however you want, but not in a form that could be confused with an RFC.  That’s a least my recollection of the spirit of the discussions we had when deliberating RFC 5377.  At the time, my recollection of the consensus was that we specifically DID NOT want to give open source folks the option to take an RFC and “run with it”.  Debian and its requirements were specifically mentioned then.
>
>Is it your opinion that the XML source for the latest draft (which 
>includes instructions to produce the boilerplate and formatting, but not 
>the actual boilerplate and formatting) would qualify as "not in a form 
>that could be confused with an RFC"?

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