Re: [codec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-10.txt> (Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec) to Proposed Standard

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Wed, 27 January 2016 20:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [codec] Last Call: <draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-10.txt> (Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec) to Proposed Standard
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This document has an unusual feature that I think needs to be 
highlighted in this last call.

Section 13 instructs the RFC editor to:
>     In the Copyright Notice at the start of the document, the following
>     paragraph is to be appended after the regular copyright notice text:
>
>     "The licenses granted by the IETF Trust to this RFC under Section 3.c
>     of the Trust Legal Provisions shall also include the right to extract
>     text from Sections 1 through 14 of this RFC and create derivative
>     works from these extracts, and to copy, publish, display, and
>     distribute such derivative works in any medium and for any purpose,
>     provided that no such derivative work shall be presented, displayed,
>     or published in a manner that states or implies that it is part of
>     this RFC or any other IETF Document."
I understand why we did what we did for RFC6716 (the specification for 
OPUS, where the additional grants were to deal with the code being 
normative).

I do not think it is the right thing to do for this document.

It would have been better if the document, or the shepherd's writeup, 
spelled this issue out. For now, Ron's message at 
<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/codec/5pl4RhroYqB9vLRnOyeIKOC8lkA> is 
a good place to start - scroll down to the section starting "The crux 
here is twofold."

RjS




On 1/13/16 8:15 AM, The IESG wrote:
> The IESG has received a request from the Internet Wideband Audio Codec WG
> (codec) to consider the following document:
> - 'Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec'
>    <draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-10.txt> as Proposed Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-01-27. Exceptionally, comments may be
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>
> Abstract
>
>
>     This document defines the Ogg encapsulation for the Opus interactive
>     speech and audio codec.  This allows data encoded in the Opus format
>     to be stored in an Ogg logical bitstream.
>
> Please note that the document makes normative references to RFCs 3533 and 4732, which are informational.
>
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-oggopus/
>
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-oggopus/ballot/
>
>
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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