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Re: [Curdle] New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Thu, 11 May 2017 14:21 UTC

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From: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
To: 'Daniel Migault' <daniel.migault@ericsson.com>, "'Salz, Rich'" <rsalz@akamai.com>, 'Russ Housley' <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Subject: Re: [Curdle] New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt
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Given that they were in the public arena and that they might be implemented in the future, I would rather not have them re-assigned to some other value. 

The reference is going to be back to the -03 draft of the document.  Since these never go away anymore I think that this is ok.  I would not be adverse to changing the description to be "Reserved for..."  Do you think that makes sense?


When doing new registrations, this will simply be an IANA request.  When the document goes through processing to the IESG the chairs would need to designate the experts to be consulted.  For simplicity I would suggest Russ and myself as we are the experts on the S/MIME and PKIX registries  (actually, just saw that I am not on the PKIX one) so a consistency between them would be maintained.

Jim


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From: Curdle [mailto:curdle-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Migault
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To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Subject: Re: [Curdle] New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt

Hi, 

I thought that the pkix draft did not consider prehash variant. Do we want to allocate 114 and 115 ? If so which reference will we indicate ? Maybe a clarifying note would be needed. 

In addition, should we make explicit who to contact when new OIDs should be added ?

Yours, 
Daniel 

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Subject: RE: [Curdle] New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt

> no reason to consume a short OID for an ASN.1 module identifier; they never get transmitted.  I suggest we save 120 for an OID that will be transmitted.

That's an excellent point and the draft should reflect that.
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