Re: [Curdle] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Wed, 10 May 2017 20:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Curdle] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt
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I think what you are looking for is the ASN.1 module which is residing in
draft-ietf-curdle-pkix.  This is where the assignment is actually being
done.  The IANA work is really just booking to make sure we don't re-use an
OID value.

Jim

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Subject: Re: [Curdle] FW: New Version Notification for
draft-schaad-curdle-oid-registry-00.txt 

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> writes:

> I do not believe that this has historically been part of the IANA 
> mission.

How have OID assignments for RFC standards been handled in the past?

MIBs do exist under the IANA.org site:

  https://www.iana.org/assignments/ianacharset-mib/ianacharset-mib

I know I have seen MIBs with a copyright of "The Internet Society" in the
past as well as the IANAifType-MIB.mib with types that are prefixed with the
'IANA' string and

       ORGANIZATION "IANA"
       CONTACT-INFO "        Internet Assigned Numbers Authority

                     Postal: ICANN
                             4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
                             Marina del Rey, CA 90292

                     Tel:    +1 310 823 9358
                     E-Mail: iana&iana.org"

inside of the various MIBs.

It seems imprudent for there not to be a machine readable record of the
1.3.101.100 .. 1.3.101.127 OIDs.

I sort of expect a section of this draft to have the OID assignments that
may be extracted.

Something along the lines of RFC 3560 perhaps?

id-X25519 OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 110 }

id-X448 OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 111 }
 
id-EdDSA25519 OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 112 }

id-EdDS448 OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 113 }

id-EdDSA25519-ph OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 114 }

id-EdDS448-ph OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1) dentified-organization(3)
  thawte(101) 115 }

Safecurves-pkix-0  OBJECT IDENTIFIER  ::=  { iso(1)
dentified-organization(3)
   thawte(101) 120 }

along with all of the other book-keeping needed to deal with the reserved
for future sub-registry and unallocated 116 thru 119 and 121 thru 127
values.

If this is all wrong, please feel free to suggest the right way to do it.

	-- Mark