Re: [Danish] Proposed WG Charter
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 15 June 2021 19:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Danish] Proposed WG Charter
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: > But the price of this method is revealing the DNS FQDN and IP of the IoT > device. I can't come up with a use case where an IoT device would gain > more than it loses from announcing to the world who it is and where it is. Any communication from location FOO to MQTT server BAR, announces the device to anyone that can see the traffic. TLS1.3 does not send certificates in the clear, so neither would it send TLS Client IDs to get the certificate in the clear. By making TLS client side certificate authentication easier to manager, we eliminate (default!) passwords in the device. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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