Re: [Dcrup] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)

Kurt Andersen <kurta@drkurt.com> Tue, 24 October 2017 23:35 UTC

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From: Kurt Andersen <kurta@drkurt.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:35:22 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My assumption had been that since there's no valid signature with
>>> rsa-sha1, there's nothing to even consider putting in an A-R header field.
>>>
>>> I think the only result that can go in this case is None.  I hadn't
>>> thought we'd need to say that, but I guess maybe we do.
>>>
>>
>> I think "policy" is the right way to go.  There's nothing technically
>> wrong with an rsa-sha1 signature, but you're deciding not to accept it.
>> It's the same as you deciding you're not going to accept a perfectly valid
>> rsa-sha256 signature on a message simply because that signature didn't
>> include the Subject field.
>>
>
> In fact I would claim that by the definitions in Section 2.7.1 of RFC7601,
> "policy" is the only option.
>

Are we talking about before or after this group consigns sha1 to the ash
heap? Perhaps I'm confused about the sequencing of events that we are
discussing. If the original DKIM spec had allowed rsa-md5 and a previous
(hypothetical) instance of DCRUP had similarly deprecated MD5, what sort of
designation would we expect to be recorded today for such usage?

--Kurt