IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Dcrup] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Wed, 25 October 2017 04:15 UTC

Return-Path: <superuser@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB2139203 for <dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pdy2H2E4nIkk for <dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qt0-x233.google.com (mail-qt0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4168D13AF75 for <dcrup@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qt0-x233.google.com with SMTP id p1so33200116qtg.2 for <dcrup@ietf.org>; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OjH6Bf/ACM8yTPsOrND+/8VJTRrxLKDdnj6ex2VsWaI=; b=XEU43MMjXpmKVAwXHOZ8m8DSGwRiASHlf5SuVmmi7Z0U2O0WY7vdQGNZTRcTH5X0MF q7hO83zaK/2HHpzB2bPsKs/TqUswgZoP5pOdcKajUlS0zpCVeeylk1ckrXz/rpzgiSFn IDoE/t3pLd03gsKIhxzbBzhqao8qB5bNiwhJMXhXjy0WkUUvcLAHXuNbv2p4u1E8CJ5B 4A+zPjetmAvpOR6rVas00JeXci7duj6WRQBTTFduOw27q6RRL9m2ZFrnm6yOg46gi+53 E1gNxH1iNVbbjQd50LAGSrCup7R+PGtqhXNbfNJUgqs0XAeLti4SkokMCCYFUzSSWdc3 gpBA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OjH6Bf/ACM8yTPsOrND+/8VJTRrxLKDdnj6ex2VsWaI=; b=AV+dr2QHV3QtLfKiVf5jnyOklFq+AdRl3z77KqPnyuhY6ITE+E27+2b1sEA/cLXI2N 9SCRtGnWOIwHgYoGLZpMH+i04iiYGU3SOvYP1YNA0QeDWyOldaoZGNS+3YZnLExTPkhd rUPY0WzNgGReumdf1EIYcMbcDc0qf/K3Tc0/MsOx+fPvExRMtRg06VgyZVx0YMHvFEQY aGFR3qn4+gWN0pDfLeQzzW5TTNqJwIYy3NWO3lnrY0F02zcHcEfs8q249IMU7ZWGX+ZT oIEnYQo4n4F/Up7F9vnwJzoYbbjWQXWvKIXMFQeGllEOW3AbJ7A4Pvl0lA6jstLegK1n fH6A==
X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUAtyt0ANjGpnMoX8BNIJ2htSrN9jQ5zpziwsMvX5IiNkH+6+pI gbrbcxkH2W7x7/Ds2w0Bihl3Z1XG38AOXVt6TA4=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+R9ajR8vN0bwzvOey8PZbsGpfYN2e6jh9rnHRDpbVHtRUjpzC1gdODlHT6Jyityu2KR26qkNfQPQVdv817aIxM=
X-Received: by 10.200.40.146 with SMTP id i18mr28317534qti.79.1508904906261; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.200.40.115 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CABuGu1pVBARKZBxVR=Sgkb_kB-CuPrHEPqUxZs57HpmABOpi9A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <150649085207.24995.1867894975380491185.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <CAL0qLwYiuq3Pt80pkQc5RNr8VV4pAObkPCMYp1NweoEggii+tQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABkgnnXsHt-jEyCvoqXfrWWoQ3-XbwRKPfrFR0WfG1rxQnjrsA@mail.gmail.com> <2E80204C-37D7-4624-BD23-573C386D7899@kitterman.com> <CAL0qLwbXdwKSnhcjr0raVo1Sh+sRzDypLxzHc1swThkBAY8WFg@mail.gmail.com> <CAL0qLwbvRhDqE5o6dXypw-jC71vwdrUJvcmBRRq_64QQw5A9pA@mail.gmail.com> <CABuGu1pVBARKZBxVR=Sgkb_kB-CuPrHEPqUxZs57HpmABOpi9A@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 21:15:05 -0700
Message-ID: <CAL0qLwbKYuffPwyz=zQLQatKpb6d07gsGCJ4wFJLpfSfJavTjA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kurt Andersen <kurta@drkurt.com>
Cc: Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>, dcrup@ietf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11403d0af00946055c574c00"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dcrup/tv8-__rBtz-0elEJwuA2nxrOIB4>
Subject: Re: [Dcrup] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: dcrup@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: DKIM Crypto Update <dcrup.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dcrup>, <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dcrup/>
List-Post: <mailto:dcrup@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup>, <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:15:13 -0000

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Kurt Andersen <kurta@drkurt.com> wrote:

> In fact I would claim that by the definitions in Section 2.7.1 of RFC7601,
>> "policy" is the only option.
>>
>
> Are we talking about before or after this group consigns sha1 to the ash
> heap?
>

Concurrent with.

Perhaps I'm confused about the sequencing of events that we are discussing.
> If the original DKIM spec had allowed rsa-md5 and a previous (hypothetical)
> instance of DCRUP had similarly deprecated MD5, what sort of designation
> would we expect to be recorded today for such usage?
>

The question's never been asked before, so I don't know how to answer
that.  But I don't think "none" is right unless we also want to contend
that a DKIM-Signature field with a syntax error in it also warrants a
"none", which I don't believe is the case.

-MSK

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email