[deepspace] Understanding the difference in aggregation between a single and multiple RIR model
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Subject: [deepspace] Understanding the difference in aggregation between a single and multiple RIR model
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Hi there Tony (and TIPTOP), Jen and I have been trying to understand the differences in aggregation between our two proposals. As far as we understand your concern with *draft-kumari-tiptop-address-space - "Address Space for Space"* <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kumari-tiptop-address-space/> is that it results in multiple prefixes per body and it doesn’t aggregate. Jen and I are having a hard time understanding this, and it’s entirely likely that we are just missing something obvious or that we are dumb - please help us understand. Using the example addresses from the slides in *https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/126/materials/slides-126-tiptop-addressing-the-final-frontier-01* <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/126/materials/slides-126-tiptop-addressing-the-final-frontier-01> The IETF requests that IANA set aside a block of IPv6 addresses for space use, and subdivide it by celestial body. In the above example, Mars gets 4200::/8. IANA then subdivides this block, and hands sections to the RIR when they need them - lets say AFRINIC gets 4200::/11, APNIC gets 4220::/11, ARIN gets 4240::/11, LACNIC is 4260::/11 and RIPE gets 4280::/11. These are all still within 4200::/8. When e.g NASA needs some address space for Mars, NASA goes to their local RIR (ARIN), and gets assigned addresses from ARIN gets 4240::/11. SpaceX needs address space for Mars - their local RIR is also ARIN, they get addresses from 4240::/11. Roscosmos goes to their local RIR, which happens to be RIPE, and they get addresses from 4280::/11. These are all still within the Mars aggregate prefix, 4200::/8. If e.g As far as we can tell, this results in the same outcome in terms of routing and aggregation as having a single RIR and a block per body, but perhaps we are missing something. Can you please provide an example where having multiple RIRs (allocating from per-body blocks) results in less aggregation? Warren and Jen.
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