Re: [Detnet] IETF 116 DetNet Side Meeting Proposal

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Sun, 12 March 2023 16:02 UTC

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To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] IETF 116 DetNet Side Meeting Proposal
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Toreless,

Is there a reason you don't want to take Janos up on his offer of the WG 
webex?

Lou

PS the rooms all come with AV speakerphones for remote participants...

On 3/11/2023 2:59 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> I will set up a webex after monday (draft deadline... busy) and
> add to side meeting wiki. Also bringing the room speaker thingy...
>
> Would be happy to hear folks who can only participate from remote to chime in that
> this is needed, else we can of course also skip it (but not a lot of work).
>
> Cheers
>      Toerless
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:37:51PM -0500, Lou Berger wrote:
>> Hi Xuesong
>>
>> Thanks for initiating this.  One process point - this is not an "official"
>> WG meeting - That happens as part of the main meeting!
>>
>> This is an informal meetup of those interesting in working on solutions to
>> the enhanced dataplane requirements document - to take advantage of many of
>> those individuals being in person at IETF 116.  I think it would be great
>> for there to be remote participation, but I don't see this as a strict
>> requirement for this informal meeting to be useful.  Clearly we want to have
>> all who want to participate who can, but good discussion can still occur
>> even with a more limited group.
>>
>> Wider discussion can and should occur on the WG list. Keeping in mind that,
>> and as always, WG decisions and consensus take place on the WG list.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the lead on setting this up!
>> Lou (as Co-chair)
>>
>> On 3/7/2023 11:35 PM, Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong) wrote:
>>> Hi WG,
>>>
>>> As discussed in the interim, we plan to have an official side meeting in
>>> Yokohama. Considering the DetNet is in Thursday Session I, I have signed
>>> a side meeting on 15:30-17:00 29^th March (Wednesday session III) in
>>> wiki page (https://wiki.ietf.org/e/en/meeting/116/sidemeetings ) with
>>> the name of “Latency Guarantee in Deterministic Networking”.  Please
>>> check whether the time slot and the meeting name looks suitable to you.
>>>
>>> Also, I notice that there are some interesting discussions in our
>>> interim about whether DetNet will persue 100% bounded latency guarantee
>>> and it seems that people tend to think the answer will be no. So I think
>>> this may bring a lot of other existing IETF work into our view. So shall
>>> we invite people from other WG to introduce the related work and discuss
>>> their understanding of DetNet, for example: network slicing, L4S, etc. I
>>> think that will also be very helpful for our further work.
>>>
>>> BTW, it will be very helpful if chairs could help set up a call meeting
>>> if people think the
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Xuesong
>>>
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