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Re: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-geng-detnet-conf-yang

Rodney Cummings <rodney.cummings@ni.com> Thu, 20 September 2018 22:29 UTC

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From: Rodney Cummings <rodney.cummings@ni.com>
To: Janos Farkas <Janos.Farkas@ericsson.com>, "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-geng-detnet-conf-yang
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Hi folks,

At the moment, I am "no / do not support". 

I am confused by what it means for the WG to adopt this draft.

The draft contains YANG for configuration of IEEE 802.1 features in a node (bridge, router, etc). This includes 802.1CB ("PREOF"), 802.1Qav (credit-based shaper), and so on. There are similar YANG projects in 802.1 for these features.

Therefore, does adoption of this draft mean that IETF DetNet intends to do YANG work that overlaps with 802.1 YANG work?

I would hope that the answer is No.

On a different point, I don't think that topology is part of node configuration (southbound). Topology is not flow or service related, but it is between the Network Operator (controller) and the User... northbound. If I am correct, this draft is starting with an incorrect assumption.

Rodney

From: detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Janos Farkas
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:02 PM
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Subject: [Detnet] WG adoption poll draft-geng-detnet-conf-yang

Dear all, 

This is start of a two week poll on making draft-geng-detnet-conf-yang-04 
a working group document. Please send email to the list indicating 
"yes/support" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state 
your reservations with the document.  If yes, please also feel free to 
provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG 
document. 

The poll ends Oct 3. 

Thanks, 
János and Lou

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