Re: [Detnet] [spring] Comments on draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases

Haoyu Song <haoyu.song@futurewei.com> Fri, 25 February 2022 17:42 UTC

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From: Haoyu Song <haoyu.song@futurewei.com>
To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] [spring] Comments on draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases
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  *   in my earlier comments, I've noted that the informational RFC 8596 appears not posing any requirements for enhancements in the MPLS data plane. If I am missing something, please let me know.
Hi Greg,

The RFC is mentioned because it shows that SFC NSH has been considered to be supported in MPLS as well, so it's a legitimate use case like the others in the draft. When we need to support multiple such use cases at the same time, we need a generic mechanism to support them, so the use-case draft serves as a motivation for our work in the ODT.
Hopefully this answers your question. Thanks,
Haoyu

From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:09 PM
To: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Cc: mpls <mpls@ietf.org>; pals@ietf.org; DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org>; spring <spring@ietf.org>; draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] Comments on draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases

Hi Tarek,
thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments. I've reviewed the diff and got several follow-up notes:

  *   the new text in the Introduction section explains the ISD as being encoded as labels:
within the label stack, e.g., encoded as labels, referred to as In
                 Stack Data (ISD), and
I think s/as labels/into label stack elements/ makes the text a bit more accurate. What do you think?

  *   in my earlier comments, I've noted that the informational RFC 8596 appears not posing any requirements for enhancements in the MPLS data plane. If I am missing something, please let me know.
  *   I might have missed it earlier. The TSN is the term used for a very specific technology developed at IEEE to support, for example, URLLC services. The DetNet WG defines the methodology in support of these services using IETF technologies - MPLS and IP. I think it would be appropriate if an IETF document refers to Deterministic Networking, not TSN. What is your opinion?
Regards,
Greg


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 5:52 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com<mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thanks for your comments. I've addressed several of your comments. The latest diffs (revision to be uploaded soon) can be found at:
https://tools.ietf.org//rfcdiff?url1=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases-00.txt&url2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tsaad-dev/drafts/master/miad-usecases/draft-dt-mpls-miad-usecases.txt<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Frfcdiff%3Furl1%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Farchive%2Fid%2Fdraft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases-00.txt%26url2%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Ftsaad-dev%2Fdrafts%2Fmaster%2Fmiad-usecases%2Fdraft-dt-mpls-miad-usecases.txt&data=04%7C01%7Chaoyu.song%40futurewei.com%7Ca25ba0813707413b445108d9f7fb7dac%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C1%7C637813481798472749%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5ZAFo77LGZeJuVzSIgVan4snl%2FC%2FaMEpdKS62AY%2BxB8%3D&reserved=0>

Regards,
Tarek (for co-authors)

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com<mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, February 18, 2022 at 4:15 PM
To: draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases@ietf.org<mailto:draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases@ietf.org> <draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases@ietf.org<mailto:draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases@ietf.org>>, mpls <mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>>, pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org> <pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>>, DetNet WG <detnet@ietf.org<mailto:detnet@ietf.org>>, spring <spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>>
Subject: [spring] Comments on draft-saad-mpls-miad-usecases
Dear Authors,
thank you for your work putting this document together. It helps to analyze essential use cases in the scope of the work at the Open DT. Attached, please find a copy of the draft with my notes and some editorial suggestions. I hope you'll find some of them helpful.
I am looking forward to your feedback and questions.

Regards,
Greg