Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID
"A. Gregory Rabil" <greg.rabil@jagornet.com> Fri, 30 March 2012 01:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID
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> In practice there's no difference. But it doesn't identify the interface. > It provides additional information about the interface that can be used as a database key to associate devices to the DUID. I am not sure I understand that. Why would the proposed hardware-addr-option not identify the interface? In DHCPv4, we only know the interface identifier (chaddr), we can't really identify the device itself. That is, we can't correlate multiple interfaces to the same device without resorting to something less than ideal, such as the hostname. In DHCPv6 (as it stands now), we can identify the device (DUID), but not the interface. My understanding of the proposal is that the MAC address is *added* to the request as an option, so we would have both the DUID and the MAC, thus allowing us to identify both the device and the interface, which is good IMO. >The problem we are trying to solve is twofold. First, tying the mac address on a shipping box to a device making a query on the network using >DUID. Second, tying the chaddr field from a DHCPv4 message to the DUID of a DHCPv6 message. So consider the CPE router--it's sending >its DHCPv4 packet on the upstream interface, and it's sending its DHCPv6 packet on the upstream interface. In both cases, the hardware >address we want to send is the hardware address of the upstream interface. It makes no sense to send the hardware address of any of the >downstream interfaces. Yes, I believe I understand this use case, and I agree that my example with the downstream interface may not have been a good choice. However, consider a more complicated example where a device has multiple upstream interfaces. As I read that snippet from RFC 3315, such a device may send multiple IAs in one request where, for example, one IA_NA is for upstream interface A, and a second IA_NA is for upstream interface B. If this is possible, then I was simply suggesting that the proposed hardware-addr-option be an IA-level option rather than a message-level option, so as to identify each interface. Greg
- [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID sthaug
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil
- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID Ted Lemon
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- Re: [dhcwg] DUID+IAID A. Gregory Rabil