RE: [dhcwg] applicability of draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ctep-opt-01

"S. Daniel Park" <soohong.park@samsung.com> Fri, 09 April 2004 23:45 UTC

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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:40:35 +0900
From: "S. Daniel Park" <soohong.park@samsung.com>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] applicability of draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ctep-opt-01
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To: 'Bernie Volz' <volz@cisco.com>, 'Pekka Savola' <pekkas@netcore.fi>, 'Ralph Droms' <rdroms@cisco.com>
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Ok, we need to make it more clear, so I will show
my thought soon whether or not to be considered
in the DHC.

Regards

- Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park)
- Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-admin@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernie Volz
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:39 AM
> To: 'Pekka Savola'; 'Ralph Droms'
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] applicability of 
> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ctep-opt-01
> 
> 
> I guess the solution is to ask the authors to add specific examples
> of the environments in which this option will be used, if they still
> feel
> this option is needed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Pekka Savola
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:51 AM
> To: Ralph Droms
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] applicability of 
> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-ctep-opt-01
> 
> 
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Ralph Droms wrote:
> > My apologies for thoroughly confusing the conversation...
> 
> No problem :)
> 
> > So, let's leave draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-02 out of this 
> discussion
> 
> > for the moment.  Back to the scenario you asked about...I 
> can imagine 
> > (if you'll give me a moment of suspension-of-disbelief) that an ISP 
> > might want to provide IPv6/linklocal service between the service 
> > provider's edge router and the customer routers, without 
> going to full
> 
> > IPv6 connectivity in its core.  In that scenario, the 
> customer router 
> > could use DHCPv6 to obtain a prefix and a tunnel endpoint from a 
> > server in the service provider's edge router, while needing 
> the tunnel
> 
> > for full external IPv6 connectivity.
> > 
> > But that does seem like a far-fetched scenario...
> 
> Yes, it's very far-fetched, because in this specific scenario:
> 
>  1) the access network is usually the most difficult part to get 
> native v6, and
> 
>  2) it's much simpler for all the concerned parties for the 
> ISP to use 
> internal tunneling to bridge the gaps in its core network.  Whether 
> these tunnels are manually configured, set up automatically using 6PE 
> ("BGP-tunneling") between the border boxes, etc.  makes little 
> difference.  It's very simple to provide v6 support across v4 core if 
> your edge device supports v6 already.
> 
> So, as stated -- I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out the real 
> applicability of this option, and I don't think we should go forward 
> with it.  The danger is that it's more confusing than it's worth...
> 
> -- 
> Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
> Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
> Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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