Re: [dhcwg] MTU option for DHCPv6?

"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Wed, 27 July 2016 22:14 UTC

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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>, "<dhcwg@ietf.org>" <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: MTU option for DHCPv6?
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] MTU option for DHCPv6?
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I'm not sure I fully follow.

The v4 MTU option is the client telling the server how much it can receive.

I'm not sure why the client wouldn't just use a large buffer (64K) as it isn't likely to need many of these buffers? The server is often more restrictive since it might be processing many requests at once.

And, why would you need to have the server send so much data that the client might not be able to receive it all?

BTW: I think when this came up during the writing of 3315, it was thought that having the client use a 64K buffer wasn't really an issue.

- Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:24 PM
To: Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com>; <dhcwg@ietf.org> <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: MTU option for DHCPv6?

Hi Bernie,

I'm operating on a link where I don't need to get any configuration information from RS/RA - everything comes from DHCPv6. So, ideally, I would like to see DHCPv6 provide an MTU option and a Prefix Information Option - then I would have everything I need so that I don't have to use a vendor-specific option. Would that be possible?

Thanks - Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie Volz (volz) [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:02 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>; <dhcwg@ietf.org> 
> <dhcwg@ietf.org>
> Subject: RE: MTU option for DHCPv6?
> 
> Hi Fred:
> 
> Nothing has been proposed that I can recall. The issue really hasn't come up (to date).
> 
> - Bernie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Templin, Fred 
> L
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:10 PM
> To: <dhcwg@ietf.org> <dhcwg@ietf.org>
> Subject: [dhcwg] MTU option for DHCPv6?
> 
> Just curious - is there now (or has there ever been proposed) an MTU 
> option for DHCPv6 in the same way that DHCPv4 has an MTU option?
> 
> Thanks - Fred
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