Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Conceptual Model - msg 1 of 2
Andrew Smith <ah_smith@pacbell.net> Thu, 06 July 2000 18:41 UTC
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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:58:26 -0700
From: Andrew Smith <ah_smith@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Conceptual Model - msg 1 of 2
To: John Strassner <jstrassn@cisco.com>
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John, The next version of the MIB (-04) will, indeed, reference the TCB concept. But only for one specific function, that of determining which TCB a given classifier element is located in (it is possible to have the same classification patterns used multiple times along a given path through the functional datapath elements - we had earlier overlooked this fact so we will need to add TCB as an index). There are several fairly central concepts in the model draft - TCB is just one of them (I'd put it slightly less central than the low-level functional element taxonomy and the idea of hooking together elements with arrow-like plumbing). It should be used by instantiations of the model (e.g. MIBs, PIBs, schemas) as they see fit: the MIB happens to focus on a very low-level description of the functional datapath elements so it needs to reference the TCB concept somewhat less often (zero times in -03, one time in the coming-soon-to-a-list-near-you -04). I can't speak accurately for the next PIB incarnation but I would imagine it has a similar level of need for the TCB concept. There's nothing wrong with this. Andrew John Strassner wrote: > > Thanks for this Brian, but I also didn't see any defense of > the TCB as is. If you want to leave the TCB in, then that's > fine, but I think that its existence should be further > validated. For example, I note that both the PIB and the MIB > don't use the TCB. > > Therefore, I don't see how the abstract can say that the > model is a basis for building either if such a central > concept of the model is not implemented in either the MIB or > the PIB. > > Plus, I would really like to see a response to my questions > about the purpose of the TCB. > > thanks in advance and regards, > John
- [Diffserv] Jumbo Frames Dave Hotlosz
- [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Conceptual … John Strassner
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Michael Richardson
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brijesh Kumar
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- [Diffserv] TCB or not TCB Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Kathleen Nichols
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Michael Richardson
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brijesh Kumar
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Kathleen Nichols
- [Diffserv] Re: TCB or not TCB John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brijesh Kumar
- [Diffserv] Aggregated port arrays Dave Hotlosz
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Aggregated port arrays Brian E Carpenter
- [Diffserv] RE: Aggregated port arrays Brijesh Kumar
- Re: [Diffserv] Jumbo Frames Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Jumbo Frames Dave Hotlosz
- Re: [Diffserv] Jumbo Frames Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Lloyd Wood
- RE: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrea Westerinen
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… Andrew Smith
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner
- Re: [Diffserv] Comments on the TCB of the Concept… John Strassner