Re: [Dime] fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide

Hi Glen, 

Do you have some suggestions on what we should put into the document to
provide more value to the readers (for protocol designers within the IETF
and outside)?

Ciao
Hannes

On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, "ext Glen Zorn" <glenzorn@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/2/2011 2:18 PM, jouni korhonen wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> We got two voices for preserving the design guidelines and apart from the
>> discussion during the Taipei meeting none against. We'll keep the I-D still
>> for a while in charter.
>> 
> 
> Interesting way to measure WG "consensus".  How many people are on the
> dime mailing list?  According to your conditions, all but 2 of those
> people are considered to be "voting" no, but apparently those 2 override
> the rest...
> 
>> - Jouni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:59 PM, <lionel.morand@orange.com>
>> <lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Give me a last chance! :)
>>> 8 months is not so long.
> 
> The draft _expired_ 8 months ago; this means that nobody has bothered to
> update even the version # & date in more than a year.  OTOH, if "8
> months is not so long", that may explain why it is considered acceptable
> for 4 months (instead of 4 minutes)  to elapse between the end of WGLC
> and the creation of a 1 page proto write-up...
> 
>> And we were waiting anyway the publication of the 3588 Bis-version.
> 
> I did you expect that 3588bis was going to change so drastically as to
> invalidate your work?
> 
>>> I will initiate a mail with at least the points that I would like to see
>>> clarified with this document. And we can use it to set-up after that a
>>> confcall. Is it OK?
>>> 
>>> Lionel
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net]
>>> Envoyé : lundi 21 novembre 2011 10:19
>>> À : jouni korhonen
>>> Cc : Hannes Tschofenig; dime@ietf.org; MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; Victor
>>> Fajardo
>>> Objet : Re: fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide
>>> 
>>> Hi Jouni, 
>>> 
>>> I believe the document is valuable but I suggest that the authors schedule a
>>> conference call to make a proposal to the group on how to finish it.
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, jouni korhonen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone has something against it if we withdrawn
>>>> draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide ? The I-D expired 8 months ago and has
>>>> been in the WG since August 2007.
>>>> 
>>>> Voice your opinion *against* the withdrawn by 2nd Dec. Silence will be
>>>> counted as 'yes' for withdrawn.
>>>> 
>>>> - Jouni
>>> 
>> 
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