Re: [Dime] fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide

Glen,

The "voices" we got for preserving the I-D for yet another round came from the authors. If the authors still want to give it another try, let them have it.

- Jouni

On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Glen Zorn wrote:

> On 12/2/2011 2:18 PM, jouni korhonen wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> We got two voices for preserving the design guidelines and apart from the discussion during the Taipei meeting none against. We'll keep the I-D still for a while in charter.
>> 
> 
> Interesting way to measure WG "consensus".  How many people are on the
> dime mailing list?  According to your conditions, all but 2 of those
> people are considered to be "voting" no, but apparently those 2 override
> the rest...
> 
>> - Jouni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:59 PM, <lionel.morand@orange.com> <lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Give me a last chance! :)
>>> 8 months is not so long. 
> 
> The draft _expired_ 8 months ago; this means that nobody has bothered to
> update even the version # & date in more than a year.  OTOH, if "8
> months is not so long", that may explain why it is considered acceptable
> for 4 months (instead of 4 minutes)  to elapse between the end of WGLC
> and the creation of a 1 page proto write-up...
> 
>> And we were waiting anyway the publication of the 3588 Bis-version.
> 
> I did you expect that 3588bis was going to change so drastically as to
> invalidate your work?
> 
>>> I will initiate a mail with at least the points that I would like to see clarified with this document. And we can use it to set-up after that a confcall. Is it OK?
>>> 
>>> Lionel
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net] 
>>> Envoyé : lundi 21 novembre 2011 10:19
>>> À : jouni korhonen
>>> Cc : Hannes Tschofenig; dime@ietf.org; MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; Victor Fajardo
>>> Objet : Re: fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide 
>>> 
>>> Hi Jouni, 
>>> 
>>> I believe the document is valuable but I suggest that the authors schedule a conference call to make a proposal to the group on how to finish it. 
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, jouni korhonen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone has something against it if we withdrawn draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide ? The I-D expired 8 months ago and has been in the WG since August 2007. 
>>>> 
>>>> Voice your opinion *against* the withdrawn by 2nd Dec. Silence will be counted as 'yes' for withdrawn.
>>>> 
>>>> - Jouni
>>> 
>> 
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