Re: [Dime] fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide

On 12/2/2011 2:18 PM, jouni korhonen wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> We got two voices for preserving the design guidelines and apart from the discussion during the Taipei meeting none against. We'll keep the I-D still for a while in charter.
> 

Interesting way to measure WG "consensus".  How many people are on the
dime mailing list?  According to your conditions, all but 2 of those
people are considered to be "voting" no, but apparently those 2 override
the rest...

> - Jouni
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:59 PM, <lionel.morand@orange.com> <lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:
> 
>> Give me a last chance! :)
>> 8 months is not so long. 

The draft _expired_ 8 months ago; this means that nobody has bothered to
update even the version # & date in more than a year.  OTOH, if "8
months is not so long", that may explain why it is considered acceptable
for 4 months (instead of 4 minutes)  to elapse between the end of WGLC
and the creation of a 1 page proto write-up...

> And we were waiting anyway the publication of the 3588 Bis-version.

I did you expect that 3588bis was going to change so drastically as to
invalidate your work?

>> I will initiate a mail with at least the points that I would like to see clarified with this document. And we can use it to set-up after that a confcall. Is it OK?
>>
>> Lionel
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net] 
>> Envoyé : lundi 21 novembre 2011 10:19
>> À : jouni korhonen
>> Cc : Hannes Tschofenig; dime@ietf.org; MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; Victor Fajardo
>> Objet : Re: fate of draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide 
>>
>> Hi Jouni, 
>>
>> I believe the document is valuable but I suggest that the authors schedule a conference call to make a proposal to the group on how to finish it. 
>>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:43 AM, jouni korhonen wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Anyone has something against it if we withdrawn draft-ietf-dime-app-design-guide ? The I-D expired 8 months ago and has been in the WG since August 2007. 
>>>
>>> Voice your opinion *against* the withdrawn by 2nd Dec. Silence will be counted as 'yes' for withdrawn.
>>>
>>> - Jouni
>>
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