Re: [Dime] late comments Re: Start of the WGLC on draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02

Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> Wed, 27 January 2016 17:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] late comments Re: Start of the WGLC on draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02
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Janet,

Thanks for the review.

See my comments inline.

Regards,

Steve

On 12/30/15 1:26 PM, Janet P Gunn wrote:
> A couple of late comments-
>
> I thought I had commented on this before (in the first draft), but 
> maybe it got lost.
>
> In sec 5.1 it says:
>
>    The United States Wireless Priority Services (WPS) and Government
>    Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS) are examples of systems
>    designed to address these first responder needs.
>
> But this is not accurate.  GETS and WPS are used by the First 
> Responder “Command/Management”, but NOT by the First Responder “Rank 
> and File”.
>
> The web pages for WPS  ( 
> http://www.dhs.gov/wireless-priority-service-wps) and GETS ( 
> _http://www.dhs.gov/government-emergency-telecommunications-service-gets_) 
> say that typical users are “responsible for the command and control 
> functions critical to management of and response to national security 
> and emergency situations, particularly during the first 24 to 72 hours 
> following an event.”
>
> So the Fire  Chief might use WPS/GETS to call the local hospital (or 
> an individual firefighter), or the hospital administrator might use 
> WPS/GETS to call the State Health Department (or an individual 
> doctor), but individual  firefighters would not use WPS/GETS to call 
> each other.
>
> You might want to contact the ECRIT working group for examples of 
> priority systems that DO support the front-line  firefighters, etc.
>
> My suggestion for rewording the paragraph is
>
>    The United States Wireless Priority Services (WPS) and Government
>    Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS) are examples of systems
>    designed to address the command and control aspects of these first
>    responder needs.
>
SRD> Change made.
> ---
>
> For section 5.2 Emergency Call Related Signaling, I would also suggest 
> that you coordinate with ECRIT for appropriate wording.  In the “911” 
> world, the bottleneck (scarce resource) is the people to answer the 
> phone.  Sometimes it is counterproductive to improve the probability 
> of success earlier in the call path, as it makes the congestion at the 
> PSAP itself worse.
>
SRD> We can pass this by ECRIT but this isn't just about making the 
calls setup faster, it is about helping to ensure that it is successful 
in the first place, especially in the face of an overloaded network.
> ---
>
> Security
> I am not a security expert, but I expect the security section needs to 
> be beefed up.  As it says in  RFC4412:
>
>
>    Any resource priority mechanism can be abused to obtain resources and
>    thus deny service to other users.  An adversary may be able to take
>    over a particular PSTN gateway, cause additional congestion during
>    emergencies affecting the PSTN, or deny service to legitimate users.
>    In SIP end systems, such as IP phones, this mechanism could
>    inappropriately terminate existing sessions and calls.
>
>    Thus, while the indication itself does not have to provide separate
>    authentication, SIP requests containing this header are very likely
>    to have higher authentication requirements than those without.
>
> I would expect similar verbiage would be appropriate for Diameter.
>
SRD> Agreed, I'll proposed a beefed up security section.
> ---
>
> Editorial nit
>  In the introduction, I think that this sentence
>    “As such, all requests are treated the same meaning that all 
> requests have the same probability of being  throttled.”
> Would read better with a comma
>    “As such, all requests are treated the same, meaning that all 
> requests have the same probability of being  throttled.”
SRD> Agreed.
>
>
> Happy New Year everyone,
>
> Janet
>
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