Re: [Dime] Start of the WGLC on draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02

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From: lionel.morand@orange.com
To: Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com>, "A. Jean Mahoney" <mahoney@nostrum.com>, "dime@ietf.org" <dime@ietf.org>
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Steve,

See below.

Lionel

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Steve Donovan [mailto:srdonovan@usdonovans.com] 
Envoyé : mercredi 27 janvier 2016 18:57
À : MORAND Lionel IMT/OLN; A. Jean Mahoney; dime@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [Dime] Start of the WGLC on draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02



On 1/27/16 11:34 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> 1 comment and 1 question below.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lionel
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Steve Donovan [mailto:srdonovan@usdonovans.com] Envoyé : mercredi 
> 27 janvier 2016 18:20 À : A. Jean Mahoney; MORAND Lionel IMT/OLN; 
> dime@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Dime] Start of the WGLC on 
> draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02
>
> Jean,
>
> Thanks for the review.  See my comments below.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> On 1/4/16 3:14 PM, A. Jean Mahoney wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm good with the document, although I agree with Janet's feedback 
>> that someone in ecrit should take a look at it, and with Lionel's 
>> feedback on the security section.
> SRD> I'll be addressing these comments in a separate email.
>>
>> Section 6, number 4:
>>
>> I assume the sender's decision to change the priority for the answer 
>> is app-specific. Maybe add some words here and in Section 8 to that 
>> effect.
> SRD> I added the following to the end of the paragraph: "The priority
> included by the answer sender is application specific."
> [LM] I think that the comment is about the "decision" and not the "value".
SRD2> Yes, but the decision to be made it about the value.  Do you have
a suggestion for alternate wording?

[LM] I think that the first decision is to include a prioriity value in the answer... even if it is the same value. But I may be wrong.

>
>> Section 8:
>>
>> Section 6 talks about nodes saving priority information found in the 
>> request's DRMP AVP with the transaction state, and then checking it 
>> if the AVP is absent in the Diameter answer. This info should be 
>> captured in this section also.
> SRD> The normative behavior is captured in this paragraph:
>
>      When determining the priority to apply to answer messages, Diameter
>      nodes MUST use the priority indicated in the DRMP AVP carried in the
>      answer message, if it exists.  Otherwise, the Diameter node MUST use
>      the priority indicated in the DRMP AVP of the associated request
>      message.
>
> Section 6 talks about one way to implement this.  I'm hesitant to include it as normative behavior.  As such, I added the following note:
>
>         Note: One method to determine what priority to apply to an answer
>         when there is no DRMP AVP in the answer message is to save the
>         priority included in the request message in state associated with
>         the Diameter transaction.
>
> [LM] It is curious to see an expected behaviour described in section 6 and no related normative behaviour. Could you explain why you are reluctant to say that the priority value indicated in the request is saved?
SRD> Section 6 is non normative and, as such, only an example. 
Specifying this in the normative section would eliminate other methods of determining the value received in the request.  For instance, a stateless agent might choose to include the value in a Proxy-Info AVP.

[LM] Good point. Could be good to indicate both options in your example.

>
>> Nits:
>>
>> Section 5, 1st paragraph: s/discussed/discusses
>>
>> Section 5.1, 4th paragraph: s/job/jobs
>>
>> Section 5.4, 5th paragraph: s/command-code/command code
>>
>> Section 6, number 6: s/transaction/transaction state
> I re-worded to the following:
>
> "...By default the handler of the answer message uses the priority saved in the transaction's state.
>> Section 7: Add a period to end of paragraph
>>
>> Section 11: s/Diamter/Diameter
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>> On 12/23/15 4:26 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote:
>>> As agreed during the Dime session at IETF94, a Working Group Last 
>>> Call is asked on the following document:
>>>
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dime-drmp-02
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