Re: [Dime] Ben's suggested change on 8, 1st paragraph

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 15 January 2015 15:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] Ben's suggested change on 8, 1st paragraph
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Here we have an example of the need for the term "transaction client" :-)

On a re-read, the text is technically correct, since it speaks of rejecting a Diameter request, vs rejecting some client protocol action. But I think puts too subtle a point on it for a reader who hasn't been involved in all our discussions. I think it would be helpful to point out that this does not apply if the throttling node is the originator of the request in the first place.

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> wrote:
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> Clients can reject requests sent by servers.  I don't see the issue.
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> On 1/15/15 3:59 AM, Wiehe, Ulrich (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote:
>> Ben wrote:
>> -- 8, 1st paragraph:
>>  
>> This is just for agents and servers, not clients, right? If so, "When a DOIC node..." is too broadly stated.
>>  
>> <Ulrich> I agree
>>  
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