Re: [Dime] [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Fri, 14 February 2014 21:24 UTC

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+1

On Feb 12, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jouni, I didn't realize.
> One more correction added
> 
>> Proposal:
>> Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to reduce 
>> its traffic by a given percentage. For example if the
>> reacting node would send 100 packets to the				<---
>> reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value of 
>> 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>> 90 packets instead of 100. How the reacting node achieves the "true       <---
>> reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up to 
>> the implementation. The reacting node MAY simply drop every 10th 
>> packet from its output queue and let the generic application logic try 
>> to recover from it.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jouni Korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] 
> Sent: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2014 10:36
> To: Maria Cruz Bartolome
> Cc: dime@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history
> 
> 
> Fine by me.. though you then need to apply the same change to the rest of this paragraph, not only the first one.
> 
> Also, please update this additional concern into the issue tracker issue #52.
> 
> - Jouni
> 
> On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
>> Same comment also applies to following paragraph in 5.5.2
>> 
>> Now:
>>  0 < value < 100
>> 
>>     Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to
>>     reduce its traffic by a given percentage.  For example if the
>>     reacting node has been sending 100 packets per second to the
>>     reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value
>>     of 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>>     90 packets per second.  How the reacting node achieves the "true
>>     reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up
>>     to the implementation.  The reacting node MAY simply drop every
>>     10th packet from its output queue and let the generic application
>>     logic try to recover from it.0 < value < 100
>> 
>> Proposal:
>> Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to reduce 
>> its traffic by a given percentage. For example if the
>> reacting node would send 100 packets to the				<---
>> reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value of 
>> 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>> 90 packets per second. How the reacting node achieves the "true 
>> reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up to 
>> the implementation. The reacting node MAY simply drop every 10th 
>> packet from its output queue and let the generic application logic try 
>> to recover from it.
>> 
>> 
>> We should not specify a rates for the simple loss algorithm. It's up to the implementation how to reduce, but no time unit has to be specified. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dime issue tracker [mailto:trac+dime@trac.tools.ietf.org]
>> Sent: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2014 9:13
>> To: Maria Cruz Bartolome
>> Cc: dime@ietf.org
>> Subject: [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous 
>> history
>> 
>> #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history
>> 
>> Now (chapter 4.7):
>>   The OC-Reduction-Percentage AVP (AVP code TBD8) is type of Unsigned32
>>   and describes the percentage of the traffic that the sender is
>>   requested to reduce, compared to what it otherwise would have sent.
>> 
>> Proposal:
>> The OC-Reduction-Percentage AVP (AVP code TBD8) is type of Unsigned32  and describes the percentage of the traffic that the sender is  requested to reduce, compared to what it otherwise would send.
>> 
>> 
>> The intention is to avoid that anyone may interpret reacting node is  required to consider history of sent information when throttling.
>> 
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------+----------------------
>> -----------------------------------------------+--
>> -----------------------------------------------+---
>> Reporter:  maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com  |      Owner:  MCruz
>>    Type:  defect                             |  Bartolomé
>> Priority:  major                              |     Status:  new
>> Component:  draft-docdt-dime-ovli              |  Milestone:
>> Severity:  Active WG Document                 |    Version:  1.0
>>                                              |   Keywords:
>> -----------------------------------------------+----------------------
>> -----------------------------------------------+--
>> -----------------------------------------------+---
>> 
>> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/trac/ticket/52>
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