Re: [Dime] [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history

Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> Fri, 28 February 2014 13:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history
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<as a chair>

Ok. We can conclude issue #52 sorted. 

@Maria could you update the final text into the issue tracker and mark it as closed?

- Jouni


On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:

> +1
> 
> On Feb 12, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Jouni, I didn't realize.
>> One more correction added
>> 
>>> Proposal:
>>> Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to reduce 
>>> its traffic by a given percentage. For example if the
>>> reacting node would send 100 packets to the				<---
>>> reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value of 
>>> 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>>> 90 packets instead of 100. How the reacting node achieves the "true       <---
>>> reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up to 
>>> the implementation. The reacting node MAY simply drop every 10th 
>>> packet from its output queue and let the generic application logic try 
>>> to recover from it.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jouni Korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2014 10:36
>> To: Maria Cruz Bartolome
>> Cc: dime@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history
>> 
>> 
>> Fine by me.. though you then need to apply the same change to the rest of this paragraph, not only the first one.
>> 
>> Also, please update this additional concern into the issue tracker issue #52.
>> 
>> - Jouni
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Same comment also applies to following paragraph in 5.5.2
>>> 
>>> Now:
>>> 0 < value < 100
>>> 
>>>    Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to
>>>    reduce its traffic by a given percentage.  For example if the
>>>    reacting node has been sending 100 packets per second to the
>>>    reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value
>>>    of 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>>>    90 packets per second.  How the reacting node achieves the "true
>>>    reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up
>>>    to the implementation.  The reacting node MAY simply drop every
>>>    10th packet from its output queue and let the generic application
>>>    logic try to recover from it.0 < value < 100
>>> 
>>> Proposal:
>>> Indicates that the reporting node urges the reacting node to reduce 
>>> its traffic by a given percentage. For example if the
>>> reacting node would send 100 packets to the				<---
>>> reporting node, then a reception of OC-Reduction-Percentage value of 
>>> 10 would mean that from now on the reacting node MUST only send
>>> 90 packets per second. How the reacting node achieves the "true 
>>> reduction" transactions leading to the sent request messages is up to 
>>> the implementation. The reacting node MAY simply drop every 10th 
>>> packet from its output queue and let the generic application logic try 
>>> to recover from it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We should not specify a rates for the simple loss algorithm. It's up to the implementation how to reduce, but no time unit has to be specified. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dime issue tracker [mailto:trac+dime@trac.tools.ietf.org]
>>> Sent: miércoles, 12 de febrero de 2014 9:13
>>> To: Maria Cruz Bartolome
>>> Cc: dime@ietf.org
>>> Subject: [dime] #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous 
>>> history
>>> 
>>> #52: Throttling not needed to be based on previous history
>>> 
>>> Now (chapter 4.7):
>>>  The OC-Reduction-Percentage AVP (AVP code TBD8) is type of Unsigned32
>>>  and describes the percentage of the traffic that the sender is
>>>  requested to reduce, compared to what it otherwise would have sent.
>>> 
>>> Proposal:
>>> The OC-Reduction-Percentage AVP (AVP code TBD8) is type of Unsigned32  and describes the percentage of the traffic that the sender is  requested to reduce, compared to what it otherwise would send.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The intention is to avoid that anyone may interpret reacting node is  required to consider history of sent information when throttling.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> -----------------------------------------------+----------------------
>>> -----------------------------------------------+--
>>> -----------------------------------------------+---
>>> Reporter:  maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com  |      Owner:  MCruz
>>>   Type:  defect                             |  Bartolomé
>>> Priority:  major                              |     Status:  new
>>> Component:  draft-docdt-dime-ovli              |  Milestone:
>>> Severity:  Active WG Document                 |    Version:  1.0
>>>                                             |   Keywords:
>>> -----------------------------------------------+----------------------
>>> -----------------------------------------------+--
>>> -----------------------------------------------+---
>>> 
>>> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/trac/ticket/52>
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