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Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Thu, 28 February 2008 11:23 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:23:18 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:05:27PM +0100,
 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote 
 a message of 19 lines which said:

> There are solutions for some protocols (SSH keys of RFC 4251 or Host
> Identifiers of HIP in RFC 4423 are two good examples) but no general
> "identity layer" in the Internet architecture.

An example of an Use Case is given by IKE (RFC 4306). Section 3.5
lists several possible identities for a machine, and there is not a
clear unique way to define this identity (identities like ID_IPV4_ADDR
are typically a poor way to define a machine on the network).

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