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Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Thu, 28 February 2008 16:24 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:23:04 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Miika Komu <miika@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: Machine Identity
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:28:40AM +0200,
 Miika Komu <miika@iki.fi> wrote 
 a message of 39 lines which said:

> While waiting for changes to libc, the DNS interaction can be
> accomplished by running a DNS proxy in the localhost that can do the
> HIP magic.

Hold on, I did not want to actually use the HIP protocol. I was just
thinking aloud about wether it was possible to use Host Identities in
an ordinary application (regardless of wether HIP was running or not).

For instance, suppose we were redesigning SSH from scratch, would it
be possible / would it make sense to use Host Identities instead of
SSH-specific keys?

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