Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft charter for "mediaman"
Paul Libbrecht <paul@hoplahup.net> Wed, 23 June 2021 07:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft charter for "mediaman"
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Hello Murray, Here are two reasons that I think may be convincing to change the template: - the old Macintosh 4-letter code is long dead - macOS UTIs are and have always been specified by Apple. Finding documentation on them is often a sport. As far one could see until 2010: no more registration, applications are free to register UTIs. As a side effect of the proprietary nature, it appears that around 2010 Apple started to indicate that the `public` subtree of the UTIs is reserved to types declared by Apple. Other documentation pages still do not mention this. As a result… Some UTI declarations (e.g. in use in widespread desktop apps) thus have become invalid. The media-type inclusion of UTIs can help against this unpredictability. You are right that clipboard types tend not to be a super-fashionable topic and I find it rather good that this does not trigger a flood of mails such as the discussion on the necessity of a new prefix. Thanks in advance. Paul On 23 Jun 2021, at 0:36, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:00 PM Paul Libbrecht <paul@hoplahup.net> > wrote: > >> I am wondering if the group is the right place to prepare an update >> of the >> registration template so as remove the Macintosh 4-letter-codes and >> insert >> clipboard flavours for windows and universal type identifiers for >> macOS. >> >> This was discussed a few times on this mailing list. >> I have been in contact with a few media-type proposers, some of which >> have >> accepted a change of their declaration in this direction. >> I have been in contact with one IETF-aware person to update RFC6838 >> but >> that has not progressed. >> > > There's been no feedback from anyone else, up or down, about this > idea. My > own impression is that this isn't quite within scope of what we're > talking > about for this effort, but then again it makes sense to include this > now > rather than spin up a subsequent effort or wait for the next train. > Naturally I'm happy to include this in the proposed charter if there's > consensus to include it. > > I'm just about to enqueue the charter we have in hand for its first > IESG > review pass before it goes out for general review. If this or any > other > change should be included in that submission, please (everyone, > anyone) say > something sooner rather than later. > > -MSK > _______________________________________________ > media-types mailing list > media-types@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types
- [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediaman" Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Ned Freed
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… ned+dispatch
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… John C Klensin
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] Proposed/draft charter for "mediam… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Paul Libbrecht
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Paul Libbrecht
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Paul Libbrecht
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dispatch] [media-types] Proposed/draft chart… ned+dispatch