Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly Q-HTTP) Version 1
Peter Musgrave <peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com> Fri, 17 December 2010 11:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly Q-HTTP) Version 1
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Hi Jose, Can you comment on the relationship of this work to the rtcweb drafts currently in dispatch? Those seems to me a method to use existing protocols to solve very similar issues. I am also unsure of what defining an application level standard protocol really means. Is this changes to http? Something that runs beside http? Instead of? Over? Thanks, Peter Musgrave On 2010-12-13, at 10:39 AM, GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER) wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Here is the charter proposal for Q4S ( Quality for service) WG. This WG will include the achieved works with "Q-HTTP" > > Thanks for your comments > > > Description of Working group > ============================ > > Problem Statement: > > The QoS over Internet is a hot issue today. Current QoS handling > mechanisms used in modern network transport layers (MPLS, RSVP, > Diffserv,Traffic Engineering) do not provide themselves a > QoS-on-demand end-to-end solution and existing adaptative > solutions based on In-band Control protocols (such as RTCP) > are very difficult to combine with any other protocols for which > they have not been designed for. > > Four Network Parameters comprises the QoS at application level: > Bandwidth, packet-loss, latency and Jitter. > > Interactive-video applications define flows in both directions. > Different applications require different constraints (in terms of > latency, jitter, packet loss) in one or both directions and > different responsiveness. The proposed solution must be an > effective out-of-band application level protocol capable of > reacting when any of these constraints are violated. Such protocol > must trigger adaptive solutions and/or QoS network profile changes. > > Currently content providers are only able to provide services based > on adaptative methods or last-mille deployments which prefer > dedicated network resources (vs. Internet), and therefore, restricts > the subscriber population and increases the costs. > > Objetives: > > The goal of this working group is to define a > QoS application-level standard protocol optimized for its use over > the internet that may be widely implemented and easily managed > by application developers and service providers. > > The core technical considerations for such protocol include, but > are not necessarily limited to, the following: > > 1. Protocol design to be used in interactive applications (including > virtualized videogames,and interative-video applications) > > 2. Ensuring interoperability with all existing transport protocols > > 3. Optimizing for low bit rates (typlically below 2.4 kbps) > > 4. To ensure a feasible practical implementation based on > policy servers and interoperability between service providers > > > Deliverables: > > 1. Specification of protocol that meets the requirements in the > form of an Internet-Draft that defines the negotiation of QoS > parameters, the measurement process and alert mechanisms. > > 2. Dimensioning rules and performance analysis > > 3. A set of technical requirements for a practical > implementation which may include adaptative solutions and/or > QoS profile modification. > > > Goals and Milestiones > ===================== > > Nov 2010 Submit Internet-Draft as a proposed standard for QoS > application-level protocol > > Proposed charter for Q4S WG > > Informational document with rules for dimensioning > and performance analysis > > Specification of architecture document for implementation > > > > > > > - Jose Javier > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Janet P Gunn
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- [dispatch] Q4S Protocol ( formerly Q-HTTP) GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( form… Harald Alvestrand