Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly Q-HTTP) Version 1

Peter Musgrave <peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com> Fri, 17 December 2010 11:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Charter proposal for Q4S WG ( formerly Q-HTTP) Version 1
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Hi Jose, 

Can you comment on the relationship of this work to the rtcweb drafts currently in dispatch? Those seems to me a method to use existing protocols to solve very similar issues. 

I am also unsure of what defining an application level standard protocol really means. Is this changes to http? Something that runs beside http? Instead of? Over?

Thanks, 

Peter Musgrave


On 2010-12-13, at 10:39 AM, GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER) wrote:

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> Hi everybody,
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> Here is the charter proposal for Q4S ( Quality for service) WG. This WG will include the achieved works with  "Q-HTTP"
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> Thanks for your comments
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> Description of Working group
> ============================
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>    Problem Statement:
>  
>    The QoS over Internet is a hot issue today. Current QoS handling
>    mechanisms used in  modern network transport layers (MPLS, RSVP,
>    Diffserv,Traffic Engineering) do not provide  themselves a
>    QoS-on-demand end-to-end solution and existing adaptative
>    solutions based on In-band Control protocols (such as RTCP)
>    are very difficult to combine with any other protocols for which
>    they have not been designed for.
>  
>    Four Network Parameters comprises the QoS at application level:
>    Bandwidth, packet-loss, latency and Jitter.
>  
>    Interactive-video applications define flows in both directions.
>    Different applications require different constraints (in terms of
>    latency, jitter, packet loss) in one or both directions and
>    different responsiveness. The proposed solution must be an
>    effective out-of-band application level protocol capable of
>    reacting when any of these constraints are violated. Such protocol
>    must trigger adaptive solutions and/or QoS network profile changes.
>  
>    Currently content providers are only able to provide services based
>    on adaptative methods or last-mille deployments which prefer
>    dedicated network resources (vs. Internet), and therefore, restricts
>    the subscriber population and increases the costs.
>  
>    Objetives:
>  
>    The goal of this working group is to define a
>    QoS application-level  standard protocol optimized for its use over
>    the internet that may be widely implemented and easily managed
>    by application developers and service providers.
>  
>    The core technical considerations for such protocol include, but
>    are not necessarily limited to, the following:
>  
>    1. Protocol design to be used in interactive applications (including
>       virtualized videogames,and interative-video applications)
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>    2. Ensuring interoperability with all existing transport protocols
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>    3. Optimizing for low bit rates (typlically below 2.4 kbps)
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>    4. To ensure a feasible practical implementation based on
>       policy servers and interoperability between service providers
>  
>  
>    Deliverables:
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>    1. Specification of protocol that meets the requirements in the
>       form of an Internet-Draft that defines the negotiation of QoS
>       parameters, the measurement process and alert mechanisms.
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>    2. Dimensioning rules and performance analysis
>  
>    3. A set of technical requirements for a practical
>       implementation which may include adaptative solutions and/or
>       QoS profile modification.
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>  
> Goals and Milestiones
> =====================
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> Nov 2010    Submit Internet-Draft as a proposed standard for QoS
>              application-level protocol
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>              Proposed charter for Q4S WG
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>              Informational document with rules for dimensioning
>              and performance analysis
>  
>              Specification of architecture document for implementation
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> - Jose Javier
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