Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Involving PSTN Reachability (VIPR)
Deepanshu Gautam <deepanshu@huawei.com> Wed, 02 June 2010 07:50 UTC
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From: Deepanshu Gautam <deepanshu@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Involving PSTN Reachability (VIPR)
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Should there be a set of deliverables what this WG is intending for? Or the draft mentioned are actually the deliverables for this WG. >The goal of this working group is to allows people to use SIP to federate over the the internet while still using phone numbers to identify the person they wish to communicate with. I would suggest to emphasize(for clarity) that the federation being refered here is the *across-domain* federation (although, some wise guys can figure it out with *over the interent* :-)) Does charter have to say that, some extensions(headers, option-tag, ...) to SIP are invisioned e.g for transfering a piece-of-information meant to authorize particular domain to contact a particuar phone number? Regards Deepanshu -----Original Message----- From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cullen Jennings Sent: 2010年6月2日 0:55 To: DISPATCH list Subject: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Involving PSTN Reachability (VIPR) I've been talking to a lot of people about the VIPR drafts - here is a first cut of a proposal for a WG that could do this. I'm sure the charter proposal needs a bunch of work but I wanted to get the discussion rolling on the list. Thanks, Cullen (PS - this is sent in my individual contributor role. Take all my posts about VIPR to be in my individual role not my co-chair role) ------------------------------------------------------- ViPR Charter Proposal (Version 0) WG Name: Verification Involving PSTN Reachability (VIPR) There are two globally deployed address spaces for communications that more than a billion people use on a daily basis. They are phone numbers and DNS rooted address such as web servers and email addresses. The federation design of SIP is primarily designed for email style addresses yet a large percentage of SIP deployments primarily use phone numbers for identifying users. The goal of this working group is to allows people to use SIP to federate over the the internet while still using phone numbers to identify the person they wish to communicate with. The VIPR WG will address this problem by developing a peer to peer based approach to finding SIP domains that claim to be responsible for a given phone number and the WG will design validation protocols to ensure a reasonable likelihood that a given domain actually is responsible for the phone number. One initial validation protocol will be based on a domain being able to prove it received a particular phone call over the PSTN based on both sides knowing the start and stop times of that call. Other validation schemes, such as examining fingerprints or watermarking of PSTN media, to show that a domain received a particular PSTN phone call may be considered by the working group. To help mitigate SPAM over SIP issues, the WG will define an token based authorization scheme so that domain using SIP to federate can choose to check that incoming SIP calls are from a domain that successfully validated a phone number. The problem statement and some possible starting points for solutions are further desired in the following internet drafts which shall form the bases of the WG documents: draft-rosenberg-dispatch-vipr-overview draft-rosenberg-dispatch-vipr-reload-usage draft-rosenberg-dispatch-vipr-pvp draft-rosenberg-dispatch-vipr-sip-antispam The working group will carefully coordinate with the security area, O&M area, as well as the appropriate RAI WG including sipcore and p2psip. _______________________________________________ dispatch mailing list dispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Involvi… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Muthu ArulMozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Jean-Francois Mule
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Jean-Francois Mule
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Jean-Francois Mule
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… WORLEY, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Jean-Francois Mule
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- [dispatch] VIPR - relation to public ENUM text Cullen Jennings
- [dispatch] (VIPR) - VAP in or out? Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] (VIPR) - VAP in or out? Peter Musgrave
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Roni Even
- Re: [dispatch] (VIPR) - VAP in or out? Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Roni Even
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Mohammad Al-Taraireh (maltarai)
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Charter Proposal: Verification Inv… Roni Even