Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfbl-address-header
Jan-Philipp Benecke <jpb@cleverreach.com> Sat, 15 January 2022 05:22 UTC
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:20:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfbl-address-header
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Hi John. Thanks for your feedback. We're currently not belonging to the M3AAWG, we may working on this later the year. I would be more than happy if you could introduce this to the M3AAWG. Best, Jan-Philipp Am 15.01.22 um 00:43 schrieb John Levine: > Hi. The ietf-smtp list is the right place to discuss mail extensions. > I'm sending replies there and will send some more substantive comments. > > But before that, do you belong to M3AAWG? That's where the people who > you would want to implement this are. The one-click unsubscribe > originated in M3AAWG discussions, so by the time it got to the IETF, > we knew that mail providers would likely implement it. I can make > introductions if you'd like. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly > > > > It appears that Jan-Philipp Benecke <jpb@cleverreach.com> said: >> Hey dispatch wg! >> >> First of all, I would like to introduce myself briefly: >> My name is Jan-Philipp Benecke, i work as a Deliverability & Software >> Engineer at CleverReach GmbH & Co.KG. >> We're a email marketing provider offering a software-as-a-service for >> sending email campaigns and transactional mails. >> This is my first IETF related work, so i'm a newbie when coming to this :) >> >> I want to introduce you my email-related draft "Complaint Feedback Loop >> Address Header" which can be found @ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-benecke-cfbl-address-header/. >> The intention of this draft is to have documented, standardized and >> automated way to provide a so called complaint feedback loop address to >> mailbox providers. >> Currently, providing and maintaining such an address is a manual and >> time-consuming process for both sides, email senders and mailbox providers. >> This draft defines the required header, how the header needs to be >> processed and signed by DKIM. >> >> Now i want to kick off a discussion around the draft and collect >> feedback. This draft has already been presented to the ISE, Adrian >> advised me to introduce the draft to this wg for further review and >> discussion. >> >> There has been already a heavy discussion while writing within the >> Certified Senders Alliance (https://certified-senders.eu/), which is an >> association of mailbox providers and senders. >> The conclusion of this discussion was that a larger majority is >> interested in such an automated path. >> For example, 1&1 Mail & Media, the company behind web.de/gmx.de/mail.com >> (major mailbox provider in Germany), is very interested in this draft >> and would be happy to have this. >> The same feedback i already got from some email senders i'm in contact with. >> >> I look forward to hear your feedback about this draft. >> >> Best, >> Jan-Philipp
- [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfbl-ad… Jan-Philipp Benecke
- Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfb… John Levine
- Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfb… Jan-Philipp Benecke
- Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfb… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [dispatch] Discussion about draft-benecke-cfb… Jan-Philipp Benecke