[Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity-conduct-01
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Wed, 18 March 2015 23:34 UTC
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Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:33:40 -0700
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, Narelle Clark <narelle.clark@pavonis.com.au>
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Subject: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity-conduct-01
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Hi Dave, Narelle, I have been assigned by the ISE to review draft-crocker-diversity-conduct-01. I apologize for the delay in delivering the review. Summary: draft-crocker-diversity-conduct-01 discusses about the the nature and practicalities of IETF attention to its diverse participation and to the requirement for professional demeanor. Comments for author: Section 1 of the document provides background information about the Internet Engineering Task Force. The rest of the section discusses about issues relating to the conduct of IETF participants. Section 2 discusses and diversity, bullying and harassment. Section 3 discusses about constructive participation. Section 4 discusses about unconstructive participation. Is there is a link between diversity and professional conduct? Would, for example, an aggressive culture cause diversity issues? My response to those questions would be that there is a link. Would would be the view of the average reader, especially someone who does not know much about the IETF, after reading the document? The IETF might be viewed as an organisation comprised of "well-funded, American, white, male engineers" with a harassment or bullying problem to fix. Section 2.2 does not fit in as it break the flow, i.e. the draft is discussing about the IETF issues, it then discusses about the nature and extent of bullying, then gets back to the IETF participation, and after that discusses about the IETF Track record. It then discusses about participation again. I suggest that the authors consider looking at the material in the draft as follows: 1. Background information about the IETF 2. Documented cases of problems with adequate consideration to anonymity 3. What did the IETF do about it 4. What was wrong in (3) 5. What do the authors propose (optional) The draft does not reference RFC 3774. Shouldn't that RFC be taken into consideration for Section 1 given that the section provides some historical information? The question I have to answer is why should this document be published in the Independent Submissions Stream. Could the authors help me answer that question? Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… Dave Crocker
- [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity-con… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity… Dave Crocker