Re: [Diversity] Review of draft-crocker-diversity-conduct-01

[S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>]

Hi Dave,
At 21:40 18-03-2015, Dave Crocker wrote:
>You appear to be saying that all documents "about" the IETF have to be
>submitted through the IETF stream.

If I am writing a draft about diversity in the IETF (I wrote one 
previously) I would initially try to get it published within the 
IETF.  If there isn't the outpouring of interest I would look for 
another venue.

>I can't tell whether you see your use of 'should' as your personal
>opinion or as an RFC stream requirement.  I am not aware of any
>requirement that matches what you've said.  Quite the contrary.  I
>believe the scope of the Independent stream covers a personal document
>like this entirely reasonably.

It is not a RFC stream requirement.  I'll comment more about this below.

>So the issue is whether it is somehow better to have it go through the
>IETF stream.  I see two factors to consider.  One is whether there is
>sufficient community interest in the document?  The other is whether
>there is significant benefit in going through an IETF rough consensus
>approval process?  I don't see the answer being yes to either question?
>  Some benefit, perhaps, but not enough to be worth the considerably
>greater effort.

Ok.

>Perhaps you should review the requirements for Independent Stream.  For
>example, on:
>
>      https://www.rfc-editor.org/indsubs.html
>
>      "The independent submission stream allows RFC publication for some
>documents that are outside the official IETF/IAB/IRTF process but are
>relevant to the Internet community and achieve reasonable levels of
>technical and editorial quality. "
>
>That's pretty general and this document certainly falls within that
>scope, as I read it.

The requirement is quite generic.  I cannot assess the level of 
technical quality as the draft is not a technical specification.  As 
for the editorial quality the draft is well-written but it is not 
that crisp.  The draft is at least relevant to a part of the Internet 
community.  I usually refer to RFC 4846 before making a 
recommendation about publication in the Independent Submissions Stream.

I suggest not considering the publication steam as a concern as we 
had this conversation about it.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy