Re: [Diversity] Concerns about Singapore

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

Hiya,

On 10/04/16 21:14, SM wrote:
> 
> I complain sometimes. :-)  

Heh - maybe if we include skillful obliqueness and "I'm not quite sure
if this is a complaint or not" as a category you'd win a category
prize:-)

> I did not do a count of the participants
> commenting about those issues.  I'll attempt an unscientific count of
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg97604.html
> 
>  Asia             3
>  Europe          20
>  North America   25
>  South America    0

Those numbers don't convince me that IETF complaining is a US-specific
thing, for various reasons, including the date-range, topics in-play,
and lack of counts per thread to name just a few. There may be such a
case to be made, but so far we don't have good evidence for it I think.

I'm also not convinced that arguing such a case is really productive.
I think if we want to name a subset of IETF participants as being more
or less culpable for some bad thing, then we really should base that on
better numbers, if those actually exist. Or else, we shouldn't make the
claim, which I think is usually better.

Cheers,
S.

PS: As in many things, the US population includes sets of people who
embody both the best and the worst on these topics - I reckon that's
mainly characteristic of their state being the 20th century's behemoth
and has not much deeper significance.