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Re: [dmarc-ietf] A policy for direct mail flows only, was ARC questions

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Thu, 03 December 2020 11:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] A policy for direct mail flows only, was ARC questions
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On Tue 01/Dec/2020 14:27:04 +0100 devel2020 wrote:
> Le 01/12/2020 à 11:37, Alessandro Vesely a écrit :
>> 
>> [...] a meagre set of old-fashioned individuals who still dislike mass social media [...]
> 
> Can decisions please be made based on sound technical reasons rather
> than intolerance and zealotry?


That was not meant to prompt the making of any decision.  It is a fact that 
mailing lists are not among the most popular communication tools.


> Setting aside the form of your argument: no, contracting with Facebook
> et al should not be a prerequisite for using the Internet for any
> purpose. By the very definition of "open network".


I agree with that "should".


Best
Ale
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