[dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discussion Thread
Richard Clayton <richard@highwayman.com> Sat, 26 October 2024 17:36 UTC
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Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discussion Thread
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In message <ea436117-f93a-dc99-394d-e2f4eae09a02@taugh.com>, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes >On Fri, 25 Oct 2024, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> If we agree that ARC is stable and valuable enough to move to the standards >> track, as Tero suggested, then that can be the WG's next order of business, >> but please don't let that debate slow down the main document's progress. > >I don't think it is. The same people who invented ARC are now working on >DKIM2, using what we learned about ARC, and I expect that once DKIM2 is >implemented we'll all forget about ARC. > >Since ARC is an IETF experiment, once DKIM2 is further along and it's >clearer what it does differently from ARC, it's worth a short followup to >8617 to say what we learned. One of the aims of DKIM2 is to make ARC unnecessary, and in particular to ensure that cases where an intermediate system must be trusted relate only to improving your heuristics which detect DKIM-replay or where you have a contractual relationship with that intermediary. - -- richard Richard Clayton Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBZx0oUd2nQQHFxEViEQLptgCffkZavOw/B/RrAy+8bru3wU046V8An1XU jpWBtSusp28C/es7P88f6IP4 =BpSK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- [dmarc-ietf] Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Todd Herr
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Barry Leiba
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Todd Herr
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Barry Leiba
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Barry Leiba
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Jim Fenton
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Jim Fenton
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Steven M Jones
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Steven M Jones
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Richard Clayton
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Richard Clayton
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… John R. Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… John R. Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: What do do with ARC, Re: Discuss… Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Tero Kivinen
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Murray S. Kucherawy
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 John Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: Discussion Thread for Issue 155 Alessandro Vesely