Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC bis: ticket 51: disposition reporting in aggregate reports

Seth Blank <seth@valimail.com> Wed, 30 September 2020 15:51 UTC

Return-Path: <seth@valimail.com>
X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7E83A0AB4 for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=valimail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SO4aoVbyqNDy for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com (mail-wr1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7CFA3A0843 for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id j2so2370919wrx.7 for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=valimail.com; s=google2048; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SkGb1YnSRO840sXF23GzY4uXZzsfpFYmiPYIuDRNYIQ=; b=WkVoyJHJBiQC5vvNmhz4u4QxPkdyXAW0nvsl972TMCEUQRL7EiLwD3PsmzOCMga82Z r+kV5QUcEUDip8fIUwdolKxhHwRCYbpMXQNTfZyije8RVi1aEbWb5vNE6o6Ny6wB0b5T tqkpKkVmq8DWtYuDN7shP5IZSz4vl8+tAOL+x4o1UFDXzZPLAIKQP8aonGFH7jduO5c6 kxL5QJRB2EI6gZlcQ6I6vvdSJMao7GwQ57KFyLJRrgR/BzgEGxODsAaKxXPtYeVJ9d97 7GLqkDVWgJNBO7DHpQeG8XK9BMxshu3N+pyw219sclg3HhGw8EUkI7vnbAssgamu2GaQ A6/g==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SkGb1YnSRO840sXF23GzY4uXZzsfpFYmiPYIuDRNYIQ=; b=RS69k77HpY124dkAhXxrWTsOB2S7QjZ18SNqyJBxii/vPAl0d7hWkAp521DP4GcgGm ISvtBVBJT/xgE6IBl1lnDZDgs5Ufu+bFQvjPNLTeNjt2tdKsaJ4vxJToPtK0KA669bcd pCfRvIZJN6grZxoRgRURp/SwE2n2UEcF8JSczgjVvofciehUReNcL6M0G4q5D8blp88E E7KCQwVd8RSZ5WWWOA6kcwYZh6OwHVYLWoBAkOWEqE/D8Of09fDSNVQ4Al0n1Ra6PkAc dl0qbKTxfzVcNYZwJ5cAjL6UsTVGCQfNw4AA7aORA1d2mq2dHv2n/DdebDi0d5op897h l8+A==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531kCsjji/pBQJxdJF4n3NGI4ZGLjstiNtcr/nxW/dqQZovpkfHP g9q/QulFFXD7joI16nk4YCNR+b/E/ugazbtbkaUutzc3BwY=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxfX18rggwvpNbRN1i/H4PR6w4Y4816L0bqwJt9uYvGigUJdY5RROH3OuVJfScPv2rzqGc7ystgrouNSi4hsnM=
X-Received: by 2002:adf:f504:: with SMTP id q4mr3807179wro.353.1601481084810; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CAOZAAfPVicBggPbctta9w-v5G2cHxMtuUwB-stu+0-KB85hCiw@mail.gmail.com> <CAL0qLwZOb00dKfQu5Uraigb3SiCBXwtzhRg5bh9sWv==yBw9pg@mail.gmail.com> <CABuGu1q2oxYq_1ReGzDFj+iRRhsmw=tLuZORxSTXs1Zv4eHqbg@mail.gmail.com> <CAOZAAfMz+eTkVW6Nytpsa1-GaXL3GuULwdrG9so=ybjXo+aS4A@mail.gmail.com> <10f0dc9f-ba9e-1a64-39f6-1d98baef582d@tana.it> <CABuGu1rCKFSENSEwuW-f1S0MvZxyBZGSAdz5G6NsatgEvgfZog@mail.gmail.com> <CAOZAAfPbRi4u-vpUtMXZM618+uH4w9teUPQKWpvTTCKTZn86jQ@mail.gmail.com> <974d8e44-0cf6-fa06-9437-04fb86ec99ed@dcrocker.net> <CABuGu1oX2Q2L-KbdGwmxQkGwox5gjQtfXR-uZw8fTkG2yo3fEA@mail.gmail.com> <CAOZAAfO4sGsrnZgotKnGBpwkjOXOjQBgAshroqoD+hiNksVeng@mail.gmail.com> <CAOZAAfNZwNF00mz2-O6utyB3B9z-_iAL0SWwJcahWi8mK7UQzw@mail.gmail.com> <87674a36-d89e-8f7d-9fc4-76bf7764c5ba@dcrocker.net>
In-Reply-To: <87674a36-d89e-8f7d-9fc4-76bf7764c5ba@dcrocker.net>
From: Seth Blank <seth@valimail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:51:12 -0700
Message-ID: <CAOZAAfMUQR4dbzx4Qwj+GpijYVsNaAWAvnyS8cLSFsa3xTQATw@mail.gmail.com>
To: "dmarc@ietf.org" <dmarc@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002cd03005b089dfe2"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/EfbfstXq99XFhP280DbsVmxdn2I>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC bis: ticket 51: disposition reporting in aggregate reports
X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" <dmarc.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmarc/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmarc@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:51:29 -0000

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:42 AM Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:

> On 9/30/2020 8:39 AM, Seth Blank wrote:
> > *       <xs:element name="disposition" type="DispositionType"/>*
>
>
> Since quibbling is always more fun than dealing with substance...
>
> Given the recent exchange about 'dispose', perhaps "handling" is a safer
> vocabulary choice?
>
> d/
>

Dave, please open a ticket about vocabulary within DMARC that you think
requires modification to be clearer and/or safer (like "dispose", which has
now been raised in two separate threads), and we'll tackle those
language changes separately with respect to the entire body of documents
instead of within the scope of singular issues.


>
> --
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net
>


-- 

*Seth Blank* | VP, Standards and New Technologies
*e:* seth@valimail.com
*p:* 415.273.8818


This email and all data transmitted with it contains confidential and/or
proprietary information intended solely for the use of individual(s)
authorized to receive it. If you are not an intended and authorized
recipient you are hereby notified of any use, disclosure, copying or
distribution of the information included in this transmission is prohibited
and may be unlawful. Please immediately notify the sender by replying to
this email and then delete it from your system.