Re: [dmarc-ietf] WGLC contentious topics (I'm in the rough and I know it) in draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-30

Baptiste Carvello <devel2022@baptiste-carvello.net> Mon, 01 April 2024 11:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] WGLC contentious topics (I'm in the rough and I know it) in draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-30
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Le 01/04/2024 à 03:36, Seth Blank a écrit :
   ^^^^^^^^^^

> In order from most to least contentious:
> 
> 1. 8.6. Interoperability Considerations
> 
> "It is therefore critical that domains that host users who might post
> messages to mailing lists SHOULD NOT publish p=reject."
> […]

Hopefully the date over here is significant.

The compromise about SHOULD NOT was hard enough to achieve, that no
reasonable person would really want to reopen it in WGLC.

April foolsy,
Baptiste