Re: [dmarc-ietf] Recommend adoption of draft-levine-appsarea-eaiauth as WG work

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Mon, 10 December 2018 17:02 UTC

Return-Path: <kurta@drkurt.com>
X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC41130934 for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:47 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=drkurt.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AGV3tx8N5kLf for <dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FC6A13109A for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id l14so9313179ioj.5 for <dmarc@ietf.org>; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:45 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drkurt.com; s=20130612; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rJyy5N/DsXMPNzu4aGdk4HvuO/Tra9bdD6vGge60w5M=; b=I6V93pu0Yv0pqsVeKzYSlSJyZ0V6YzeaHuz3C9ksgYokRjHqvPtiTDL3wqMg+xwlEb /kDZZG+4hwBZgyR9qQ0Ctme9ky+t7lciGXEiq5OwFJJzCbPTig+dg8STIZdqsgSJbbrO PvQXibTSSOzHt86naIQ3Xz8ZIHSLDXWFa6ssQ=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rJyy5N/DsXMPNzu4aGdk4HvuO/Tra9bdD6vGge60w5M=; b=BlYxu5gFnBLwNguzUxNB6v4oDjmsjQGwk3EJZ6obqEjw75OFlnT/Si6KPgwfUWzeZ5 YfHmWWetxyGhwcaBQXLbICXSZpxNTPHXl2spMuYp/9t7azCYTBa76/EIpHjyy/ZTivUA OhZZcAcNR+5Z+miB0eZqQSEfbBfyghy82qdHP69loL96+ft/P4kF4kFMC5qn3nCdfjXM R91TKdcCOuF4iC/Unm+9pi2u7vHuc8VMCX22k/qpC0PTPyAa+lpduAyERdd+elZYpoMI vQcD7HnUrSSDktd2Uar5LNOKoFUVdwhQqYEp1kQ8j1lOq/AfEgDylwQrp2WsN+JvXV+O B0hg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWb2VfHbqjq0veWxfrq2YLHYe4jAzxe2JL7Ens6Px1xLDneiNnQC 3hMQrUkHJtL5PIS5y4OuhpoND4QIT4CWRhzWMzPJ92zp5Bc=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U06Fa80Wd4i0IyDPWqAVNWDFRa2w7HH4Q8DdfetsiZD2ff/uUZdV8YnVyh8wABBmFYTXetKOIEsVzAA8d103A=
X-Received: by 2002:a5e:940c:: with SMTP id q12mr9302851ioj.228.1544461364723; Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:44 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <CABuGu1oWd_5reSBSoCrL2KoFu1cr9nwWTsuFP+a4sKq572pPtA@mail.gmail.com> <D71CF379-350A-4FB0-A664-148B7C724BBE@kitterman.com> <CABuGu1rP9Udnzw4Ox1O501+OQc1LeHrQ1BUGGytCU8=-iiyL8w@mail.gmail.com> <5A5FC552-4CEC-42E9-B40B-6CFED1D86885@kitterman.com>
In-Reply-To: <5A5FC552-4CEC-42E9-B40B-6CFED1D86885@kitterman.com>
From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:02:30 -0800
Message-ID: <CABuGu1qHrfOggr=zpc3xM12d7obzEGfvGgET4U_iSE0aU1OChg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>
Cc: "dmarc@ietf.org" <dmarc@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000039f43057cadef92"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/kUmInmnqpvM8A8xAvmn7WazpIcw>
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Recommend adoption of draft-levine-appsarea-eaiauth as WG work
X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" <dmarc.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmarc/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmarc@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc>, <mailto:dmarc-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:02:47 -0000

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On December 10, 2018 4:31:03 PM UTC, "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
> wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:28 AM Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Since I'm most familiar with RFC 7208, I took a more detailed look at
> >the
> >> SPF updates.  Much of the current text is a restatement of what RFC
> >7208
> >> says.  I don't know that we need that.  The difference is to make
> >explicit
> >> what was  already implicit; s and l macros will never match if the
> >local
> >> part of the email address contains non-ascii characters.
> >>
> >
> >Why not? If the non-ASCII (or non-7bit) characters are puny-coded, it
> >seems
> >like they should be able to match without any problems.
> >
> AIUI, local parts don't get puny-coded.
>

Even when attempting to look them up via the macro mechanism? It seems like
that encoding should be a part of the macro processing.

--Kurt