Re: [dmarc-ietf] Announcement - DMARC bis Design Team

[tjw ietf <[e-mail]>]

We’re working on canceling the meeting. 

Tim

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> On Feb 22, 2021, at 16:59, Dotzero <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> 
> So I'm assuming there won't be anything to talk about at the next IETF meeting.
> 
> Michael Hammer
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:59 PM Seth Blank <seth=[e-mail]> wrote:
>> On 27 October 2020, in post https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/qtCDyGbeDHz96G8FaCxJvhJKrvo/ the chairs announced a split of RFC7489 into three documents, to be scoped as follows:
>> 
>> The DMARC Base Spec (editors - Emil Gustafsson, Todd Herr, and John Levine)
>> Aggregate Reporting (editor - Alex Brotman)
>> Forensic Reporting (editors - Steve Jones and Alessandro Vesely)
>> 
>> The chairs are of the opinion that discussion of topics related to the DMARC bis documents on the mailing list has reached a point where it would be unreasonable to expect any timely progress toward completion of the refinement of the DMARC bis at this point.
>> 
>> Our charter (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dmarc/about/) is clear on what this working group’s priority should be when reviewing and improving the DMARC specification: “Issues based on operational experience and/or data aggregated from multiple sources will be given priority.”
>> 
>> We are spending too much time on items that are at best incidental to DMARC, and rarely are informed by operational practice or data from multiple sources. Efforts by the chairs to weigh in and declare discussions unproductive work for that particular thread, but the involved parties just move on to another thread, and consensus remains well over the horizon.
>> 
>> We have therefore decided that the best approach to achieve progress for the DMARC bis documents is to form a design team, per RFC 2418, Section 6.5. The team will be composed of the editors, focused on their designated documents, as defined above. The team will be charged with working through all existing tickets and producing an updated version of each DMARC bis document to present to the working group, at which point discussion would resume on-list with respect to the updated documents.
>> 
>> The design team will operate as follows:
>> 
>> A moratorium is hereby imposed on creating tickets for this working group, effective at 5pm PT, Friday, February 26th.
>> The design team will have until 5pm PT, Friday, April 23rd, to work through all applicable tickets, and come to agreement on each to either modify DMARC bis documents (and make such modification) or reject the ticket, with the reason for rejection added to the ticket's comments. No tickets will be closed during this process, everything will be transparent for working group review after the design period.
>> Changes made to the DMARC bis documents will be tracked in the following manner:
>> By comments added to the ticket driving the change
>> By comments in the markdown (.md) and/or XML version of the documents
>> Through an Appendix section added temporarily to the documents, so that changes can be easily summarized for the next step in the process.
>> All changes throughout the process will be publicly visible within GitHub (https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc).
>> At the end of the time period, in roughly sixty days (or earlier if their work is finished before then), the design team will deliver updated versions of the DMARC bis documents to the working group, and the working group will have a chance to review that version and make comments/recommending edits, etc., using https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/report/1 to create tickets as needed. Initial discussion will be limited to what’s in the documents.
>> The design team will consult with each other and the chairs during their work as needed.
>> 
>> The chairs spent a great deal of time discussing this, and we don’t take this action lightly or without hesitation, but in the end we feel it’s the best way to not only make progress on the working group's efforts, but also to allow for working group participants to reset and perhaps gain a fresh perspective on this important work.
>> 
>> After the updated documents have been presented to the working group, we will hold an interim to discuss them and hear all feedback.
>> 
>> Seth, Tim, and Alexey, as Co-Chairs
>> 
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