Re: [dmarc-ietf] Working group next steps

Ian Levy <ian.levy@ncsc.gov.uk> Sun, 31 March 2019 10:18 UTC

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From: Ian Levy <ian.levy@ncsc.gov.uk>
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>> I’ll also offer gov.uk as an experimental ground (within reason!).

> Excellent.  I've listed it in the experimental registry at psddmarc.org.
> Since you already had a live DMARC record for that domain, people can experiment with this now.

I guess at some point we'll have to stop generating SPF and DMARC records for the non-existent subdomains of gov.uk so we can test the new stuff properly. When we're at that point, let me know.

Ta.

I.

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