Re: [DMM] WG Review: Distributed Mobility Management (dmm)

Alex, 

Do you have a specific change to the text in mind? The charter text uses systematically "mobile host/router" to make sure mobile routers are not forgotten. However, charter also allows solutions that are not specifically tailored to mobile routers. 

Jouni

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> Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> kirjoitti 8.10.2014 kello 14.38:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to comment on reusing prior work.
> 
> Citing RFC3963 and RFC 5177 (v4 and v6 extensions to Mobile IP for network mobility) seems logical to me, since they're about Mobile IP too.
> 
> Citing RFC 4888 and RFC 4889 (NEMO Route Optimization PS and solution analysis) seems logical to me, since the charter says "optimal" routes.
> 
> Currently there is discussion in the DMM WG sketching potential solutions.  When they're ready they'll certainly compare to these two sets of RFCs, and will have to answer same questions: does it work with Mobile Router (not just Mobile Host)?  does it offer optimal routes? does it modify CN?  is it subject to 'stalemate' situations (RFC4888 section 2.7)?  does it involve multiple encapsulations?  does it permit nestedness?
> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 03/10/2014 21:38, The IESG a écrit :
>> The Distributed Mobility Management (dmm) working group in the Internet
>> Area of the IETF is undergoing rechartering. The IESG has not made any
>> determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is
>> provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to
>> the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2014-10-13.
>> 
>> Distributed Mobility Management (dmm)
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Current Status: Active WG
>> 
>> Chairs:
>>   Dapeng Liu <liudapeng@chinamobile.com>
>>   Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Assigned Area Director:
>>   Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
>> 
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>>   Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmm
>> 
>> Charter:
>> 
>> Mobility management solutions lie at the center of the wireless Internet
>> and enable mobile devices to partake in IP networks anytime and
>> anywhere. The IETF Distributed Mobility Management (DMM) working group
>> (WG) specifies solutions for IP networks so that traffic between mobile
>> and correspondent nodes can take an optimal route. DMM solutions aim for
>> transparency above the IP layer, including maintenance of active
>> transport level sessions when mobile hosts or mobile networks change
>> their point of attachment to the Internet.
>> 
>> Wireless network deployments have traditionally relied on hierarchical
>> schemes that often lead to centralized deployment models, where a small
>> number of mobility anchors manage both mobility and reachability for a
>> mobile node. The DMM WG will consider the latest developments in mobile
>> networking research and operational practice (i.e. flattening network
>> architectures, the impact of virtualization, new deployment needs as
>> wireless access technologies evolve in the coming years) and will
>> describe how distributed mobility management addresses the new needs in
>> this area better than previously standardized solutions.
>> 
>> A topic of particular focus will be mobility anchoring in this new
>> context, and the DMM working group is chartered to work on
>> maintenance-oriented extensions of the Mobile IPv6 protocol family (RFC
>> 5213, RFC 5844, RFC 5555, RFC 5568, and RFC 6275) as well as new
>> approaches which capitalize on other protocols specified by the IETF.
>> For example, mobility management in a limited area, such as within an
>> autonomous system, is not strictly limited to mentioned IP mobility
>> protocols but can be any existing or a new protocol solution enabling
>> the movement of a mobile node such as routing protocols. When extending
>> protocols that are not based on Mobile IP, DMM solutions will have to be
>> reviewed by the corresponding WGs.
>> 
>> IPv6 is assumed to be present in both the mobile host/router and the
>> access networks. DMM solutions are primarily targeted at IPv6
>> deployments and are not required to support IPv4, in particular for the
>> case where private IPv4 addresses and/or NATs are used. DMM solutions
>> must maintain backward compatibility:  If the network or the mobile
>> host/router does not support the distributed mobility management
>> protocol that should not prevent the mobile host/router gaining basic
>> access (i.e., nomadic) to the network.
>> 
>> Contrary to earlier IP mobility protocols, mobility management signaling
>> paths and end-user traffic forwarding paths may differ. Further,
>> mobility-related functions may be located in separate network nodes. DMM
>> solutions should not distinguish between physical or virtualized
>> networking functions. Whenever applicable, clarifications and additional
>> features/capabilities for specific networking function deployment
>> models, e.g. in virtualized environments, are in-scope and encouraged.
>> Solutions may also specify the selection between the care-of addresses
>> and home address(es)/prefix(es) for different application use cases.
>> 
>> The working group will produce both informational architectural and
>> standards track protocol solutions on the following work item topics.
>> 
>>       o Distributed mobility management deployment models and scenarios:
>>         describe the target high-level network architectures and
>>         deployment models where distributed mobility management
>>         protocol solutions would apply.
>> 
>>       o Enhanced mobility anchoring: define protocol solutions for a
>>         gateway and mobility anchor assignment and mid-session mobility
>>         anchor switching that go beyond what has been specified, for
>>         example, in RFC 6097, 6463, and 5142. Traffic steering
>>         associated with the anchor switch is also in-scope if deemed
>>         appropriate.
>> 
>>       o Forwarding path and signaling management: the function
>>         that handles mobility management signaling interacts with the
>>         DMM network elements for managing the forwarding state
>>         associated with a mobile node's IP traffic.  These two functions
>>         may or may not be collocated. Furthermore, the forwarding state
>>         may also be distributed into multiple network elements instead
>>         of a single network element (e.g., anchor).  Protocol extensions
>>         or new protocols will be specified to allow the above mentioned
>>         forwarding path and signalling management.
>> 
>>       o Exposing mobility state to mobile nodes and network nodes:
>>         define solutions that allow, for example, mobile nodes to select
>>         either a care-of address or a home address depending on an
>>         application' mobility needs. In order to enable this
>>         functionality, the network-side control functions and other
>>         networking nodes must also be able to exchange appropriate
>>         control information, as well as to the mobile nodes and their
>>         applications.
>> 
>> The working group may decide to extend the current milestones based on
>> the new information and knowledge gained during working on other
>> documents listed in the initial milestones. Possible new documents and
>> milestones must still fit into the overall DMM charter scope as outlined
>> above.
>> 
>> Milestones:
> 
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