Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

Marco Liebsch <Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu> Wed, 11 February 2015 12:28 UTC

Return-Path: <Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu>
X-Original-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dmm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106311A8856 for <dmm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 04:28:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.611
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JTNf8-uRHuV9 for <dmm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 04:28:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D451A8857 for <dmm@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 04:28:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9139210900A; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:28:23 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de)
Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bZI0itgUChSX; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:28:23 +0100 (CET)
X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted
X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted
Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 591C8108F0F; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:28:19 +0100 (CET)
Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.100]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:28:18 +0100
From: Marco Liebsch <Marco.Liebsch@neclab.eu>
To: Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org>, "dmm@ietf.org" <dmm@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call
Thread-Index: AQHQNxCQwb7tmB6Fg0Gw13Z6GEPna5zTo+uAgBRZy4CAA2M7AIAAGhOA
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:28:18 +0000
Message-ID: <69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91BD3617@PALLENE.office.hd>
References: <A730EA79-F6CF-49CD-9933-9FDA4AA75541@yegin.org> <556A06B1-A71C-45DC-A5FB-66CC8ECF47B8@yegin.org> <223129BA-541E-4C56-9364-6C2B8A5A1D3B@yegin.org> <29DDE580-C9A3-4825-8C0B-CF6844438BEC@yegin.org>
In-Reply-To: <29DDE580-C9A3-4825-8C0B-CF6844438BEC@yegin.org>
Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.1.6.1]
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_69756203DDDDE64E987BC4F70B71A26D91BD3617PALLENEofficehd_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmm/7w3KMMKHqiZdYI043Q1PtbIrioI>
Subject: Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call
X-BeenThere: dmm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Distributed Mobility Management Working Group <dmm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dmm>, <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmm/>
List-Post: <mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm>, <mailto:dmm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:28:30 -0000

Hi Alper,

I could join only the last 5min of the call and could not participate in the discussion, nor in the
draft selection, which does not mean I disagree with the agreement.

One clarifying question. The scope of WI1-4 has been clearly described and the selected
draft is about extending socket API to enable smart application with picking a suitable
address type (WI1). In case multiple addresses of type sustained are configured, is it
up to the lower stack implementation to pick one? That means only the available types
are exposed to applications through the socket API, correct?

I understand retrieval of a new type and associated IP address is covered by a separate work item.
Can a trigger for such request come from the application via the extended socket?
That means in any case an application can request the address type it needs and
the stack will retrieve it from the network. In such case, the kern may report to the
application the status of such IP address configuration, e.g. in case of failure.
A more simplistic approach is to allow applications to use only the types, which
are available on the mobile and exposed to the application. Which operation
do you have in mind?

Thanks,
marco



From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin
Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 12:43
To: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

Hello,

Yesterday's call was attended by: Danny, Byoung-Jo Kim, Jouni, Seil, Sergio Figueiredo, Marco, and Alper.

Slides can be found at: yegin.org/NGMobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call3.pptx<http://yegin.org/NGMobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call3.pptx>

WT agreed to use draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility as the baseline for item#1 (the API).
A revision of the draft will also include a new section to cover backward compatibility (Danny will provide the draft text).
Comments on the draft are welcome.

The next call will be about items #2/#3 (IP address configuration enhancements associated with the API).
We intend to schedule that one in about 2 weeks.

Alper







On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:


Folks,

See below for the Webex details.
Remember, the call is on Tue, Feb 10, at 4pm CET.
And don't forget to read the documents in the reading list prior to the call.

Attendees shall read the following material before the call so that we can directly jump to the discussions:

1. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
3. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02



Alper





DMM - Mobility Exposure and Selection WT

Tuesday 10 February 2015

16:00  |  Europe Time (Paris, GMT+01:00)  |  1 hr 30 min








Join WebEx meeting<https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m1dad9871a277ff2ab142ae8ff4b77ad3>


Meeting number:

641 085 326

Meeting password:

dmm1911





Join by phone

1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada)

1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)

Access code: 641 085 326

Toll-free calling restrictions<http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf>





Add this meeting<https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m0855d524ccb7239248d0ce34e19f38c8> to your calendar.





Can't join the meeting? Contact support.<https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/mc>





IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be discoverable in a legal matter. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to being recorded, discuss your concerns with the host or do not join the session.



<WebEx_Meeting.ics>


On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:


Poll is closed, and majority selected the following date for the call:

Feb 10, 4pm CET.
1,5hr call.

Please mark your calendars.

In this call, we'll aim making progress on the I-D for item#1 (an API for source address selection).

Attendees shall read the following material before the call so that we can directly jump to the discussions:

1. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
3. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02


Alper







On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:


Folks,

Please mark your availability on the following doodle for our next DMM WG Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call:

http://doodle.com/7xgcr8x6cgxnbzur

Register your availability no later than the end of Monday (Jan 26).

Alper