Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 11 February 2015 12:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call
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Le 11/02/2015 12:43, Alper Yegin a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> Yesterday's call was attended by: Danny, Byoung-Jo Kim, Jouni, Seil,
> Sergio Figueiredo, Marco, and Alper.
>
> Slides can be found at:
> yegin.org/NGMobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call3.pptx
> <http://yegin.org/NGMobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call3.pptx>

Hello,

I looked at the slides.  I think I understand the concept of type of IP 
address from a mobility perspective: fixed, sustained, nomadic.

I have remarks:
- could an aquired prefix (DHCPv6 PD) also be qualified as fixed,
   sustained, nomadic?
- how would a mobility address type relate to other address 'types'?
   - link-local, ULA, global.
   - unicast, anycast, multicast.
   - MAC-based, random-based (RFC7217).
   - configured by SLAAC, by DHCPv6, by PPP, or registered (RFC 6775).

E.g. a nomadic address could never be a link-local address.

> #2. Describe how IP address type information is conveyed from network to MN.

If one designs a protocol to convey address type information from the 
network to the end node, then one could also add the other types 
mentioned above.

SLAAC could never 'convey' the address type to the end-node, because 
SLAAC is an operation happening with as heavy weight from the Server 
(router) as from the Client (Host): the Router decides the prefix but 
the Client decides the Interface ID.

Address Registration Option of 6lo and BTLE would have the Host 
conveying this information to the Router (and not vice-versa).

Yours,

Alex

> WT agreed to use draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility as the baseline for
> item#1 (the API).
> A revision of the draft will also include a new section to cover
> backward compatibility (Danny will provide the draft text).
> Comments on the draft are welcome.
>
> The next call will be about items #2/#3 (IP address configuration
> enhancements associated with the API).
> We intend to schedule that one in about 2 weeks.
>
> Alper
>
>
>
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>
> On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> See below for the Webex details.
>> Remember, the call is on Tue, Feb 10, at 4pm CET.
>> And don't forget to read the documents in the reading list prior to
>> the call.
>>
>>> Attendees _shall read _the following material before the call so that
>>> we can directly jump to the discussions:
>>>
>>> 1. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
>>> 2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
>>> 3. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
>>> 4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
>>> 5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02
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>>
>> Alper
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>> *DMM - Mobility Exposure and Selection WT*
>> Tuesday 10 February 2015
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>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>
>>> Poll is closed, and majority selected the following date for the call:
>>>
>>> Feb 10, 4pm CET.
>>> 1,5hr call.
>>>
>>> Please mark your calendars.
>>>
>>> In this call, we'll aim making progress on the I-D for item#1 (an API
>>> for source address selection).
>>>
>>> Attendees _shall read _the following material before the call so that
>>> we can directly jump to the discussions:
>>>
>>> 1. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/slides/slides-91-dmm-4.pdf
>>> 2. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-6.pdf
>>> 3. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility/
>>> 4. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-dmm-8.pdf
>>> 5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02
>>>
>>>
>>> Alper
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>>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Please mark your availability on the following doodle for our next
>>>> DMM WG Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call:
>>>>
>>>> http://doodle.com/7xgcr8x6cgxnbzur
>>>>
>>>> Register your availability no later than the end of Monday (Jan 26).
>>>>
>>>> Alper
>>>>
>>>
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